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[nickle989]

This is just a brute force attempt being made. The plates are 3.5"x27" in -+ configuration but in a parallel style. The power is applied at the base of the unit 2.7 volts / 27.9 amps, the voltage at the top is 1.8 volts with about a 11% KOH solution. I have it running at just under 4 PSI. The power source is a 24 volt rectifier and is cabable of putting in 100 plus amps. The rectifier is 240 volt AC and is running at .89 amps.
The sweet spot seems to be between 55-60 amps ... and the rectifier is only increases to .98 amps. I have had it higher but it does not show a great increase on the amount of hydroxy being created. It does sustain a flame with no problem at all. Sorry I did not take a photo of it. I did not want to lite it up again as it flashes back into the bubbler and to many nosy neighbors. I would like to find a way to limit the amount the flash back and the kaboom. Sorry about the pictures as I did not want to use the flash .. it washes out the photo's. I will add them as soon as the project page becomes available.

The next step I want to do is to create a series cell which I am sure will increase the gas output and efficincy. I need to look at what will give me the most out of the SS that I have first. Maybe someone in here has some suggestions ... is it better to create a square or rectangle plates ? or does it make a difference?
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[kevinsatterfield]

My oppinion is the safest way is to create a gas/feed system like that of Mr.Boyce's booster project as it prohbits a huge amount of gases to be stored in the unit.In doing that way the plate shape wouldnt neccessarily have an effect but would be more safe than creating a cell with a collection area that could be hazzardous.

[ww]

Nickle if you figure out a way to reduce the flashback KaBooms I sure
would like a hint. I hate it when i'm not watching and it backs up to the
bubbler it is quite loud..

I do love playing with my little torch tho... A flame smaller than a bic
light and it melts steel...

Stay safe
ww

[kevinsatterfield]

ww i just read a patent date'n back to 1884 by H.M Payne (#308,276) that used terpintine as a scrubber liquid( in the bubbler intsead of water) that gave a fuel much more safer to deal with.It claims the amount of terpintine consumed is minimal ...it does give the hydroxy a hydrocarbon fuel texture of some sort but in very small amounts......im just reading patents and try'n to find one that can help me with magnetics and came across this one.... well actually this one is the first one in the book from the water car museum.But this may give inspiration and some new ideas you may not have tried yet.Would be interesting to hear of this process from someone that has tried it.

[ww]

Sounds interesting.. I love playing with my little torch and I'm using 2 bubblers for a saftey precaution.

Thanks for the tip
ww

[nickle989]

Something interesting is happening now. I was using a needle from a ink jet refill kit, it produced a nice orange flame. I went to light up the little torch now and it burnt back to a crisp (kaboom the bubbler pop'd the rubber stopper) .. it had a blue flame though almost like something had gotten into the hydroxy mixture. Not to be discourage I made a torch using a .025 mig welding tip and some copper tubbing brazed together. It still had the blue flame though instead of the orange flame. It still seems just as hot though as it melts stainless steel still. I put another hole in the stopper to put in a steel line so as to intraduce a fish bubbler to try to keep the flash back from happening all this did was just make the blue flame smaller until I dropped the amps going to it and then it went out. I then sealed that fish bubbler off and decide to just put the tip into a pail of water and that made the flame go out with a flash back, this method won't work, as I found out, if the amount of hydroxy is to great so i just reduced the amps and then put the flame out in the water.

Is anyone else getting a blue flame ?

[ww]

Wow never got a blue flame yet. I use the ink refill metal tube for my torch.
I do know that if the pressure drops the flame will back into the tube making
it cherry red just before the bubbler blows. my test before I light it is to hold the tip out about 3 or 4 inches from my arm to see if I feel the flow, if so I light it. I did refill my bubbler all the way up to with in an inch of the top
witch reduces the amount of Hydroxy in the bubbler. Not quite as big of bang that way. At least the girlfried stopped calling out to the garrage to see if
the garrage was still thier. LOL

In the middle of rebuilding my poor S-10's engine so play time is a couple weeks away for the time being. I have to have it done by this weekend
because it's Mud Fest time here in the midwest.

ww