"Plasma ignition" and an electrolyzer

[AnointedReign]

[thrival]

Annointed:

An excellent link, thank you for posting. One thing I forsee might
be a problem for those circuits shown, is the way HV and lower-V-but-
high-amperage are mixed. The problem is voltage always flows downhill
and HV overtakes, i.e. pushes back the lower V. Now this is great for
feedback circuits and keeping batteries charged (hint-hint) but lowers
the total amount of power we hope to output in this water arc/explosion
application.

Which is why I suggest injecting the lower V, high amp pulses
between the HV pulses. Granted we'd like them to be in phase,
but the HV may trigger the arc as in standard ignition, then the high
amp pulse sustain it, like an arc welder, superheating enclosed water
vapors. I think lightening might behave similar-- very HV triggering
arcs from clouds to ground, then dumping millions of amps to earth.

[AnointedReign]

To Thrival:

Electronics talk goes way over my head, not that I dont appreciate the response, but I dont understand what you are getting at... Are you questioning whether the theory of this plasma spark system works or not?
If you believe this (which I'm not implying, just questioning) why doubt it when these plasma spark ignitions have been on the market for some time and I am assuming at least a few folks have them installed. I am not even implying building a diy kit, but simply purchasing a manufactured kit, which is guaranteed to work... Or are you implying that using both an electrolyzer and a plasma spark system [i.e. "HotWires"] together on a car's electronic system is unfeasible?

All I am suggesting is using the plasma spark system to lean out the oxy-hydro gas consumption within an ICE, resulting in a less efficent or smaller electrolyzer to reap the same effect as an electrolyzer that has for example 4000 sq. inches of surface area... Is this unfeasible?

[thrival]

AR:

No I wasn't suggesting that plasma arc/explosions don't work.
In fact I posted similar links about a year ago and have S1R9 info
in my project folders. I think it's a very interesting line of
research to persue, and your idea of adding hydroxy is a
different take.

What I was simply stating is that crashing two different voltages
into each other will diminish the lower voltage even further. So
even if the lower V has higher current, it won't reach our plugs
with the intensity we want. I believe that's why S1R9 used relays,
because their coils hold the electricity in a dynamic magnetic field
that offers greater impedance to the HV while still able to deliver
it to the plugs. There are still losses for the above reason tho.

And yet if the low V, higher amperage can follow (as in-between)
the HV spikes, it could have the same affect. As usual the devil is in the
details. I was thinking about connecting a wire at the alternator/
battery terminal and the other to the output side of the ignition coil
with just a diode to protect the battery and alternator from the HV
spikes. Maybe some of that high amperage would follow the spikes.
It's a very simple idea. The problem with ignition coils is they don't just
fire, they ring, in diminishing undulations. It takes a while before
the undulations die down. But if the DC slipped itself between the pulses,
we might just have something.

Another idea is just clamping the output from an inverter (220V) and
mixing with the HV, but inverters use lots of watts. If you look in my
projects folder you'll see an idea I have for mixing voltages in an
isolation transformer. I think it might accomplish the same as S1R9's
relays, and with fewer components. I'd be very careful using capacitors
at HV & amps tho, most lethal.