How would you market an ou device?

[CJMOSS]

[mrgalleria]

Aloha,
So you want to market an ou device? Better read this page first- http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Suppression
Bill

[waterbard]

[olympios]

A mistake that many inventors have made, is marketing! They all see the money side of it. They all want royalties. Any of the above will get you "marked". If you try to get any device patented or somehow registered to you (either locally or internationally), you are asking for trouble. Next thing you will know, will a guy knocking on your door the next day, offering you some $$$$$$$ and you better take it or... you know. Oil cartels do not own one country, they own the whole world.
Ask help from the government? Give me a break! Do you think they work for you, for the people? No, they are controlled by the big money. A good proof is the Federal Reserve (U.S.). It is privately owned by a bunch of bankers. No, no, it is not own by the government (the people). All you have to do is type "Federal reserve" in google, and read. So asking for help from the government, you won't even get a $$ offer, since there is no record of your invetion... it must be kept that way... you know how.

So in our case, you must completely forget profits. Some people, above, gave some good ideas. Put it in the internet, send emails to friends or people you don't even know (mail lists), show your friends how to do it so they can do it for their friends too. Of course, lots of people will delete the email because they will think it is a joke and nobody will give such thing for free. But there will always be some that are familiar with it, and look into it. Also we got to play dirty like the oil cartels play dirty. Send copies to... Chinese government or any second world country and eventually it will get around. It will not have your name at the bottom of the article (Thanks to Joe Blow we have a successful OU device), but who cares. The idea is to help the world, isn't it?
So, whatever it takes. But first, let's make (invent) the device and it won't take long before most of the world will know about it. There is a good bunch of us in this site, and before long it will be in other sites too. It won't take long to spread it around, thanks to the internet!

[decisive]

As a couple of you mentioned earlier, we need to capture the imagination of children to get them interested in this stuff for the future of free energy. I have been thinking a lot about this lately and this morning I had an epiphany!

I have a thirteen year old son who like most kids his age enjoys instant messaging his friends on the net, playing video games, and watching TV.

He is a smart kid, but he just seems bored all the time. He does like to READ however and it occurred to me today that his favorite books are fantasy. For example, he is obsessed with Harry Potter as are millions of other kids all over the world!!! Currently he is reading War of the Worlds and is intrigued with the concept of ray guns.

So anyway, I was surfing the net of free energy websites last night and I came across this site:

http://www.electricspacecraft.com/ringflyer.htm

Interesting...no?

Now click under the video clip and look at the “magic” wand made from PVC.

Then it occurred to me that back during the middle ages (and before I am sure), there were people who experimented with these sorts of things and may have discovered how to produce "magical" electrical discharges using simple materials. Google "Bagdad Battery" [this invention needs a whole thread onto itself!!!]

Without the perceptual concepts of static electricity that we have today, people would have thought this to be "strong magic." I could be wrong here, but if you were an inventor of such things during this time, one of two things could happen. You could sell your soul so to speak and become a magician for the King who would have wanted to consolidate and control such knowledge or you could be deemed a witch by the church and be burned at the stake. Either way you were screwed.

Now, I have a lot more to say about this, but I want to get back to my point.

So, I was driving this morning taking my kids to their Mom's so that I could go to work and I brought up this topic with my boys. Immediately, they became infused with excitement!!!

I said what if some of the stuff in the Harry Potter movies and middle age mythology had some truth to it in the sense of discovering unknown energy states.

I then showed them the website above and they were so excited to make a "magic wand" to do these things. Now, if we could come up with toy wands made of cheap pvc and aluminum foil interesting enough to capture the excitement and curiosity of children who have been exposed to Harry Potter, you could create a whole generation of young people intrigued with the concepts of free energy and there would be no stopping the inertia.

Somehow, we just have to bridge the young geek science world with the young fantasy world kids. I am thinking renaissance festivals which seem to occur all over the place these days at least here in Florida. Also, my two youngest kids love to collect football cards and they both play football, but when ever we go to these collectors card shops, there are always a group of kids playing dungeons and dragons, etc. There is a whole generation out there folks who would be intrigued with this stuff if it were packaged the right way.

As colleague of mine at UF has a son who has a History degree in medieval folk lore and he and his wife know several ancient languages. I plan to discuss this idea with them.

The other thing is that in the industrial world that we live in, there is so much cheap material from which to experiment with and there are a number of websites that discuss interesting home science projects.

Anyone else see where I am going with this???

Here is one of the coolest sites: http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/

and some others:

Bill Beaty’s “Weird Science”: For details on anomalous phenomena observed in interesting experiments see www.amasci.com/weird.html or www.eskimo.com/~billb/freenrg/esj.html

Borderland Sciences Research Foundation: to find out more about the premier information resource for discerning scholars and advanced researchers on the frontiers of science and awareness, visit www.borderlands.com.

Breakthrough Propulsion Physics: Learn about NASA’s visionary program to promote research toward the development of alternatives to jet propulsion at www.lerc.nasa.gov/www/bpp/ or www.lerc.nasa.gov/www/pao/warp.htm

Children's Educational Toys: Visit DreamAlong.com for a large selection of educational toys, games, and traditional toys to ehchant the hearts of your loved ones. Educational yous delight the child's senses while stimulating their desire to learn.

CIP Engine: The CIP Engine is a device that converts centrifugal force into unidirectional linear "reactionless" thrust. Visit The Cook Propulsion Engine Society, a forum where supporters of this remarkable invention meet as a community and exchange ideas, thoughts and opinions.

Experimental Energy Links: A web site of information on clean energy exploration in the following areas - hydrogen, ZPE, quantum energy, vacuum energy, space energy, free energy, plasma electrolysis, cold fusion and electrogravity. Go to, http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/links.html.

Faraday Laboratory Ltd.: Publisher of New Energy Technologies, a scientific magazine dedicated to reporting the latest in advanced space propulsion systems, new energy devices and other experimental projects at www.faraday.ru.

Fusion Efforts by Amateur Scientists: Richard Hull and other amateur fusioneers report fusion experiment results and discuss fusion theory on the "Fusor" bulletin board. Take a look or join in at www.fusor.net

High Energy Amateur Science (HEAS): For more information about Richard Hull and the Richmond group of amateur scientists studying high energy physics, including such areas as water arc explosions, Tesla coils (as old TCBOR), and nuclear fusion, visit http://rhull.home.infionline.net/highenergy001.htm

JLN Labs: An excellent web site dedicated to the search for free-energy solutions and a new generation of space-propulsion systems, http://jnaudin.free.fr/.

Jochen Kronjaeger’s High Voltage Web Site: For a wealth of information on topics of interest to serious high-voltage experimenters; including items for sale and trade and numerous links, see: www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/

Stardrive Engineering: This book presents an electrodynamic starship propulsion system and discusses related issues in quantum gravity and cosmology. For more information, go to www.stardrivedevice.com.

Supernatural Minds: Home of the greatest minds in the world. www.supernaturalminds.com.

The Bell Jar: Vacuum enthusiasts can find helpful, practical information, including articles, announcements and more links, on the Bell Jar’s home page, www.belljar.net

[zendog]

Hi All-

This isn't on the subject of hydrogen but it is about what is supposed to be an OU system and why the fellow has decided to offer it for free rather than go the usual commercial and patent route.
He also goes on to warn that it could be potentially dangerous to try to commercialize such a system.

Here is the link to some news brief about it and you can find there the link to the website with the plans.

http://www.azom.com/details.asp?newsID=6104

Any of you savy electrical engineer types want to give this one a go?

[hypersoniq]

Bill Gates wasn't forced to give away Windows...

Why can big time execs retire with golden shower curtains while someone who invents the competition can expect to go broke attempting to get to market?

When the law fails to protect you, you protect yourself. Sometimes the best defense is a little strategic offense.

[decisive]

Hi Zendog,

Ok, I will be the one to break the "stand byer effect" and step forward.

I checked out the "lost Telsa" patent at the www.fluxite.com website.

I am not an electronics guru nor someone who has read Tesla's and Royal Rife's work to the degree that others here on the forum have.

I like the way the author acknowledges that modern science can't adequately explain magnetism and even electricity very well or at least outside the narrow conceptual framework that the current dogma allows.

(for more on that subject read William Beaty's website on electricity...very good in my opinion: http://www.amasci.com/ele-edu.html)

I like the way s/he uses "input" and "output" instead of terms like "positive and negative" or "north and south poles"

Conceptually, the whole thing sounds rather interesting and I sure would like to get Bob's input on the square wave frequency stuff described. Others that know Tesla's work, please speak up on this.

Here are some of my problems:

1. If s/he has successfully "tuned" one of these "tunable round wave output" electricity generators and reached overunity as described, then why not also provide video proof of the model in action like Dave Lawton did with the xogen technology and the Sully DC guy did with his electrolysis device?

2. There are some errors/questions that I have.

a. is it 22 or 82 full wraps of copper around the Tesla coil cone as it is described differently in two places??? could just be a typo.

b. how is the output copper wire from the Tesla Coil cone going to connect with the "second sync generator" if it is buried deep inside the magnet as explained.

c. I thought neodymium magnets were already magnitized. Some of the language here is confusing.


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Possibilities:

1. The guy is for real and someone should test it out.

2. Could be a hoax by the powers that be (PTB) to get many in the overunity scientific process to redirect attention to a wild goose chase.

Could also be PTB's way of cataloguing those who go there and download the pdf to construct a black list of potential "free thinkers". BTW, the URL owner has filed it anomously..I checked.

3. Could be a marketing plot to get many people to buy these rare Earth magnets. The one described will cost over $300.

[Note: Bsed on an earlier post by Thrival on magnets, one cheaper way might be to buy 1"X2" rectangar block magnets and use stainless steel (or some other medium) spacers. This would also allow inserting the cones without drilling holes into these magnets which are very brittle.]

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I am leaning toward number one until someone SPEAKS up and provides some rationale as to why it will not work.

[thrival]

decisive:

I wouldn't worry about the PTB on this one.

A NeFeB magnet of the size to produce useful power output would be
terribly expensive. I would suggest a hockey-puck size magnet with
solid steel/iron cylinders on both sides to extend the magnet's length
and surface area, and evenly distribute the field. A simpler matter to
drill the holes in steel or iron than risk cracking the magnet.

As for the (tesla) coil(s) if that they be, recall that the secondary output
coil is inductively coupled to the primary. One secondary lead is
grounded, the other terminates to torroidal capacitive head, but in this
case the iron cone. This end typically shoots radiant energy into space
but in this case, into our magnet. Of course there is a concentrated
magnetic field focusing on the iron cone as well. Since he said Tesla coil,
we might assume inductive coupling is used even tho the drawings don't
show every detail. I'd assume any four converging cones had the same
polarities while the others were opposite, and that those collective
polarities would be periodically reversed. One thing we know about
magnets however; heat and/or bucking fields will weaken them over
time. On the other hand tesla coil output is radiant, cold electricity
(when it's not arcing) so heating may not be a problem. A tesla coil
secondary typically has hundreds or even a thousand wraps and operates
at high frequencies. The coils have such high inductive impedance at
that rate, that cold, capacitive energy visibly rises up the coil, or so
Tesla said. So the few turns the author describes sounds suspect, that
they're not tesla coils. (Of course tesla used many other types of coils.)
It could be an interesting effect, getting the field to wobble like that.
Probably won't see a demo anymore than someone's garage UFO.

The patent looks like relates to principles of Floyd Sweet's device, and
Tom Bearden's later MEG.

[Weston]