Low Voltage Electrolysis Questions

[kww]

[bhaas]

[bhaas]

Here are Bobs bitmaps in zip format. Click

Thanks Bob.

Brad...

[bhaas]

Just a few questions. I just posted those as soon as I got them before really looking at them. I think I understand it now. You have 3 plates in each cell with 2 of them connected/tacked to a bolt and a center plate tacked to the inside of the case with the notch cut out to make room for the tacked bolt. So from what I see the case is positive being the reason for insulation around the case. I can see this getting kind of spendy. How many amps were you running and or anything out of the ordinary that your willing to share? If you have any more files you'd like posted no matter how big they are feel free to e-mail them to me. I have a 100meg plus e-mail account but if your e-mail limits your sending I can always set up an FTP. I also have somewhat of a site, if you don't mind I'd like to post info there to. I feel everyone should have as much info/ knowledge as possible on this subject. It's time for change. And when I get another job since I quit my $40,000 a yr job Wednesday on principle I'll be back to building. But I'll probably be playing with this till I go bankrupt since I'm obsessed with this, and once I start something..... Thanks.

Brad...

[bhaas]

I was gonna ask you if you were a member, but I assumed you knew about it. Lot of good people there. I think you'll like it. Everyone shares what they find. As far as I know anyway. I like it. If I somehow stumble upon the magic to this it'll be posted and spammed then what can anyone do about it? Nothing. Too late, everyone has it now. Just takes one click. As far as making money, well, just make units to sell. Not everyone can make their own. Will create a whole new economy possibly. If it can be done efficiently enough shouldn't be a problem in my opinion. Anything is possible. And besides, I have nothin to lose.

Brad...

[kww]

Cool, I'll let you know if we do actually make this trip, it's not really a "sure" thing.

Thanks for the designs. My bowl experiment was "similar", lots of electrode surface area and totally isolated cells hooked in series. All 5 bowls were bubbling very nicely with only 4 amps reading on the charger, but with the leaks I didn't even begin to try and measure. Btw, I've got another even simpler idea of making the bowl unit. As soon as I get two new bowls(drilled too many holes in the others ) I'm going to make a big o-ring out of 1/4 inch vinyl tubing to fit snuggly around the rim of one bowl. When the other bowl is put over the first the o-ring makes a seal(silicone may be added) and spaces things nicely. A few zip ties through drilled holes in the most outer edges of the rims of the bowls will hold this together under tension. I plan to run it with the bowls on edge. Two small holes, the top one for output gases and one a little below this for adding or controlling water level will be drilled, along with one hole in the outer part of the rims of both bowls for the + and - wires, which I'll screw on. I'm curious if I can make this to not leak and build several psi. If I can I'll have to get 12 or so new bowls to make a big unit to see what kind of torch it'll make. Should be a fast cheap cell to make, which would be necessary since I don't think those bowls are that great of stainless.

I ran a small section(partly submerged) section of one of my 2 bowl cells on about 6 amps for hours, which turned the water brown and put a black film on a bowl. Might have just been from contamination though....I wiped the film off and the bowl looked new again, unlike with my aluminum cell. LOL I feel like an idiot over that one.

Hey, no problem in waiting to get to that last part, I understand tired. (I know it says shock, but it looks tired in my opinion

[duke401]

bob
i was wondering what type of racing were you doing. i think i rember you said you had to use a newly charged battery at the start of a race. cause the alt. of a boat is`nt very good. how long were the races is my ?
duke

[WaterFireHO]

[d-technic2000]

[d-technic2000]

[d-technic2000]

[Jebus]

It wouldnt accomplish much because, like you said, there would be a very high electromotive force but very little actual charge moving though the water. Normal electrolysis follows Ohm's law which is
I(current)=Voltage/Resistance. For the best results you need to try to have the overall resistance of your cell(s) as low as possible. That way you can achieve a maximum amount of current flowing through the cells with a minimum amount of input voltage. So realistically what you want to have is a good amount of voltage over a low resistance.

[Jebus]

^ ***assuming that your power supply can provide high currents

[golden_guppy]

[kevinsatterfield]