NZ 60 minutes news segment - WATER AS FUEL

[AntDavison]

[Loster]

[adam666]

[AntDavison]

hiya adam666, you will hate me, but im a resident of jaffa city , let me know if you want me to send you a copy of the segment

[adam666]

[zendog]

[adam666]

[Jumpsman23]

Hi,

This guy from New Zealand that is running the motorcycle engine on the hydrogen & oxygen gases, what kind of range is he getting? Did he report average or maximum speeds of the bike? His website is very vague and general, he doesnt go into any specific details about his experiment. Could someone who has seen the video please provide technical details and outcomes of this New Zealanders experiment? It would be much appreciated.

I havent seen the 60 Minutes video yet. There are other experimenters who have all ready ran motorcycle engines on oxyhydrogen, but the effects are only brief. No one yet as far as I know has actually found a way to produce so much oxyhydrogen that the engine can run continuously on it. There are reports of people who have said to have done this like Daniel Dingel and other experimenters, but I dont believe there is enough evidence to prove their claims.

Stanley Meyer might have had this technology also, but there is two sides of viewing his technology. One side believes he was legitimate and what he had actually work, and the other side of skeptics thinks that what he had didnt work.


Thanks,
Jesse

[Jumpsman23]

Hi,

It's good to see some media exposure for these types of technologies. Biosmeanslife.com is very general. The man from New Zealand experimenting with running the motorcycle engine on oxygen and hydrogen (oxyhydrogen) does not provide enough information or technical details on the outcome of the experiment on his website. Could someone who has seen the video please provide us with more technical details on the outcome of this experiment? Your help would be appreciated.

Some of my specific questions are, what is the maximum and average speeds of the motorcycle, and what is the range/distance of the motorcycle running on the oxyhydrogen?

Many people have experimented with running small motorcycle engines on oxyhydrogen in the past. The problem is that the effects are brief, and no one has found a way yet to run an engine continuously on the gases.


Thanks,
Jesse

[AntDavison]

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=358

dvd's airmailed to loster and bhaas last week so they should have them soon, and hopefully can reencode to be internet friendly

nothing disclosed on miles per gallons of water though

[bhaas]

Hi AntDavison,
I got the DVD's today. I'm able to watch the NTSC one in my regular DVD player for my TV (I didn't try the PAL) but in the DVD drive on my POS computer all I get is "Please insert disk" I installed a bunch more software and still get nothing with either disc. That 911 footage rules to. I want to put that on my site to if I can ever get the files off of the disks so I can make them smaller for downloading. Maybe Adam can upload them or tell me what I need to do or what software I need to get explorer to see the files on the DVD's. Thanks for sending them. I really appreciate it. I think I'll watch it again. If anyone has any ideas how I can get these off the DVD's, let me know ASAP. Thanks.

Brad...

[AntDavison]

maybe you dont have any software to play back videoDVD's

if you can open the disk in explorer (right hand click on your dvd drive letter and select open), navigate to the \video_ts folder (there's only one folder)

there you will see 4 BIG vob files. the biggest one is the 60minutes clip, one will be the steaming car, one will be the pentagon clip, and one will be the menu structure

VOB's are just mpeg2 streams, so if you have a media player (with a mpeg2 codec) to play mpeg2's then open the VOB's from there, or copy them to a hard drive and rename the extension *.vob to *.mpg, or right hand click on the VOB's and select a program to open them with

your computer may be lacking an mpeg2 playback codec

you may need to download something like K-Lite codec pack (only install the mpeg2 stuff, not the rest) to get mediaplayer to play those mpeg2 streams, or use a program like powerDVD

the original files are PAL 720x576@25fps, 7.8Mb/s (highest quality videoDVD-compatable rate), and uncompressed PCM audio
it might playback in black and white on your tv with a bit cropped off top and bottom. i think most tv's and dvdplayers in the states tend to be ntsc only, in pal countires both tend to be multistandard; the pal version will be better quality, and may look more correct on a computer (ntsc version may make people look short and fat by about 12% ), on pal they may look 8% tall and skinnier


analog NTSC conversion is 720x480@30fps (a little shakey)

pentagon stuff is just a screen record from a flash animation at http://www.freedomunderground.org/memor ... n.php#Main
i found it quite disturbing
the flash animation will be heaps smaller if you could manage to download it

ant

[bhaas]

I have all the codecs for everything. I even booted up an old system I have that has an actual DVD decoder card. Same problem. I know what files I want off the DVD, it's just that when I put the DVD in my drive on either system It hangs real bad and explorer just plain doesn't see the disc. Either one. I thought maybe it was that BS region code, but that only applies to commercial DVD's and not home made ones. At least that's what I just read. I'm baffled as to why I can't get to the files on either disk on both of my systems. It really pisses me off. I'm gonna keep at it. Hopefully I'll figure something out. Thanks Ant.

Brad...

[AntDavison]

maybe your dvdplayer cant read the dvd-r media, some of the older hp/compaq, even old sony's have problems with that media and like dvd+r better, try copying the vob's to harddrive ... if you can't copy the vobs correctly, your dvd-rom may not like the dvd-r media ... it may be able to see all the files in explorer, but it might not be able to read all the data ... no region encoding ... looking at the disk, the 60min clip has been split into 2 vobs, the first one being 1gb is size

[bhaas]

I was thinking that too. The drive just doesn't like the media/disk. It's a Hi/Val drive Dual Format 4X DVD rewritable #HDVDRW4D and I bought it on 2/17/04 so it's not too old. It just won't read or just doesn't like the disks for some reason. I'm gonna try someone elses computer and see if I can get the files off that way. That's my only option, or I can buy another drive I guess. Explorer doesn't even acknowledge that the disk is in the drive. It thinks it's empty and tells me to insert a disc. Thanks.