Self Running Engines

[ElectroGasMan]

Hi groups

Here is an old paper that states what Peter Lowrie did to run an engine. I will leave it up to you to find out if it is the truth or a lie.

Michael

This paper sets out to describe why an experimental apparatus, namely a 12 valve Toyota 1600cc 4cyl engine runs on electrolytic gas. That is not so strange in itself as it is well known that Hydrogen is a fuel*. The benefit of using electrolytic gas is that the Hydrogen has with it, its own oxidizer - Oxygen. Already perfectly proportioned, no gas mixing is required and so complete combustion is accomplished without the need for additional air. Here's the rub; the car engine uses a separate belt driven three phase marine alternator in a "Y" winding with output rated at 150 Amps at 24 Volts which is fed into three electrolysis cells, each cell gets a single phase. Beginning at 12 Volts the cells are heated partly by hot exhaust gas and partly by way of voltage on the plates within acting as heating elements. When the cells get up to temperature (about 75° C) the alternator tickle supply is reduced to a range between 1.24 to 2.00 volts which then serves to increase electrolysis efficiency in accordance with Faraday's Law(s) of electrolysis and thus efficiencies in the order of 97.5% are achieved the cells consuming circa 600 Amps each the process becomes endothermic and provides gas more than sufficient to fuel the engine.

Thus the engine generates its own fuel (and oxidizer) with ample power to spare. Most argue that this is an impossible situation; at best the engine becomes a dynamic brake and at worst it just won't work. The explanation being that you can't get more energy out than what you put in and in citing various texts, at first glance appears quite correct. The fact of the matter - as this paper will prove - is that the texts are either wrong or fail to supply all of the information.

[spencyg]

Do you have the paper, or just this introduction?

Spence

[ElectroGasMan]

[MarkinAustralia]

Pter is a decent hard working person. he did have an engine running once and has worked tirelesly to repeat what he once achieved a few years ago. However he was a little ambitiuos advertising self running generators. i believe he is still working on his test rin in NZ and i do wish him well.
However its not easy often to repeat one of experiences.
I am not sure of using brute power of several kilowatts is the way to go...but time will tell.
I have assisted him in a small way with some resources and the info he has provided me has been invaluable on my research.
I would like to mention i was talking to a consultant in Ny the otherday who mentioned many people around the world are making good progress...some very close to self running...but he felt Bob boyce is the closest of anyone. i guess we have a bit more tinkering to do..but we will get there.
Thanks Bob
Mark

[ElectroGasMan]

Thanks Mark for the undate on Peter failure with running a car on water. I always thought it was for real but instead it sounds like so many other reports we get.

Maybe this is his way of living a more private life after people came and probably practically over ran his with questions. What better way than to say it just didn't work. On the other hand the single cells in series off ebay is brute force and with enough power does make plenty of gas.

It is sort of confusing these days with so many posiblities.

At any rate I was looking forword to your report and now we have it.
Peter just can not repeat it.

[MarkinAustralia]

Hi Michael
i wouldnt call what peter did as a failure. he has had it running before but its dificult to make progress on a shoe string budjet. he has contributed a lot and i hope he can continue the good work he is doing.
I hope o get the phone call oneday he has suceeded...and we should encourage him.
mark

[stanlives]

I think your both right...I feel anyone taking the time and effort to tinker and share their results HONESTLY helps push everyone further and the cause deeper !

Its kinda of fun to think you are watching the race to the next greatest technology on earth