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Postby AlaskaStar » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:13 am

OK.

First, I need you to clarify which picture you are looking at for the coil(s) and you may want to re-look at the picture for clarification because most everything is LABELED. If you are referring to the bench where the coils were assembled, you might see a much larger coil hanging ABOVE the rest of them, and this would be the spool upon which the coils were made from. I have to get the magnet wire in bulk, meaning I have to UNSPOOL this wire to wrap the coils.

Also the heat is not wasted. It is discharged (for the stationary unit) into a house or structure, providing heat (in winter here....that is major gravy!).

In the mobile unit, it would be discharged to atmosphere. The key ticket here is to GET RID OF MORE HEAT THAN IT CAN ABSORB. This is where an ABSENCE of energy is the ticket to free energy. A.K.A. ZERO POINT ENERGY, in a much more practical way to carry out the task.

The HEAT is absorbed from the atmosphere and then dumped back to the atmosphere. If you dump the heat back into the evaporators, you will nullify the system and it will halt. This would be the same as installing BOTH the evaporator AND the condenser from your refrigerator INSIDE the ICE BOX of the refrigerator. By cooling the condenser, you would be increasing the efficiency of the system right? WRONG. You have to DUMP that heat someplace. This absence of heat is what makes it work. If you heat the evaporator with the condenser, you would expect the refrigerant to expand quicker....right? WRONG. Again faced with a system that exhibits NO ABSENCE of ENERGY and NO TRANSFER OF ENERGY.

Again, I will write for clarification:

ABSENCE OF ENERGY IS THE WAY IT WORKS. YOU MUST DUMP MORE HEAT THAN YOU CAN ABSORB TO MAKE IT WORK. IF YOU DO NOT GET RID OF THE HEAT, IT WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION. THE MACHINE WILL STOP. WITH NO ENERGY FLOW THE MACHINE CANNOT PRODUCE THE HORSEPOWER CONVERSION FROM BTU TO ROTATIONAL MOVEMENT.

I strongly suggest picking up anything you can find in a HARD-BOUND BOOK (that's right boys and girls...something absent of the internet...found in libraries on shelves, that don't plug into the wall....totally solar powered...) that will explain the workings of a refrigerator or Air Conditioning system.

JEHU: Dumping heat is required. Without ditching the heat, the system will grind to a halt.

Law of Diminishing returns.

As for the batteries...the generator head will take care of that issue.



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Postby Jehu » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:52 am

This is the image I was refering toImage

It looks like there is a small yellow label directly over the top of it.


I see what you mean by dumping energy to make energy now. Just wasn't sure if there could be a way to salvage that dumped energy.

I suppose if we look at it in the way of some thing that we are all familar with, money, it could be used in the same way. You gotta spend money to make money, and if Energy = money, therefor, you must spend Energy to make Energy.

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Postby AlaskaStar » Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:43 pm

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Postby Jehu » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:26 pm

Ahh, that makes sense. I was looking at it thinking "What the heck has he done there?"

Yeah, that's a good idea. You wouldn't want to have the coil suddenly spring out in a big tangled mess after winding it.


Anyhow, have you given the mag valves a dry test yet to see how they go?
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Postby AlaskaStar » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:07 pm

It's the neatest thing to flip a switch and watch the valves move.

Answers the question right?

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Postby biggeorge » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:08 pm

Regarding the old-tech cams and problems getting them ground.
There is a far simpler solution that has not been mentioned at all.

Why not make up some custom sprockets for the cams?

They need to have half as many teeth as the originals, or change the drive sprocket to have twice as many teeth.

All you'd need to do after that is get a custom chain made up.

This would change the valve action from every 2nd cycle to every cycle, same as the football cams, but without the added friction.

Simple.

I'm all for the solenoids though, but there is always a simple mechanical solution for these types of problems.

If size of the timing cover is a problem, or it's part of the oil flow system, use an engine with a timing belt instead.

You mentioned earlier about requiring a twin cam per head engine, A good quad cam V8 is the lexus 1uzfe 4 litre. They are pretty cheaply available and are very well made.
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Postby mrgalleria » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:41 am

Aloha,
Big George- I think that the cam gears are only part of the equation.
I think Alaskastar also needs to manipulate the valve timing, duration of lift, and actual lift (when the valve opens and closes, how long it stays open, and how far it opens).
This would at the least require a different cam, and even that would not give the immense ability towards flexibility. Also, there are fewer moving parts, with less overall friction and heat in unwanted areas. A valve train of his design, in the long run, should be more economical to manufacture and maintain. No valve adjustments. Computer controlled for economy and power.
I hope it works- it is a mechanical revelation!
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Postby mrgalleria » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:45 am

Aloha,
PS. When I said I hope it works, I meant in a long term operational capacity. I know that it works in a low RPM tabletop demonstration.
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Postby Jehu » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:10 am

AlaskaStar, in your project folder you stated that you are going to do a public demo of this engine. Are you still going to do the demo and will you record it like you did with the Fe/Zn system?
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Postby AlaskaStar » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:32 am

The answer is YES.

In two parts. The first part we will OMIT the invite to the general population or even intellectual types of people. I want to prevent the ignorant stupidity that was recorded on the last video from happening again.

The second demonstration will again be recorded, but I will not be in the video. I will be observing from either the Catwalk above or from the upper office (either at UAA or here in Wasilla). I will have someone whom is more patient with stupid people fielding questions, answering them and refusing to babysit those whom point at the same damn thing and repeatedly ask what it is even after being told 97 times what it is and how it works.

So the first video will be just me, the engine and the camera operator.

The second video will be worthy of sending to "America's Funniest Home Videos" for possible extra funds toward the project. If I can get between $1K and $10K it would be nice.

Those whom have received the DVD are probably laughing at this in full understanding of what I mean.

I have only received 2 more requests for the DVD. Any more? Seriously now. I am hard pressed to believe that there are only EIGHT people who really want to see it.

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Postby Jehu » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:00 am

Yes you do get some people who a dumb like that. After about the 5th time some one asks me a question like that I just tell them I explained it to them 5 times before so they can now figure it out by themselves. It makes them realise they are the fool when everyone around starts laughing.
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Postby AlaskaStar » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:08 am

One cannot be too harsh on the stupid. For they will only go home, drink more beer and spawn more like them. You have to subliminally say something that makes them feel good is perceived as a compliment and is really an insult.

Like when I told my sister this:

"Wow...You are so Promiscuous..." and to which she replied with a smile and said, "Why, Thank You!"

So you have to be a little back-handed in insulting them and making them feel good at the same time.

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Postby resident_genius » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:47 am

where is the line between tinkerer and scientist, scientist and madman, madman and genius?

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