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OUPower.com Discussion Board for Over Unity Power Research 2006-02-03T20:11:15-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/feed.php?f=1&t=498 2006-02-03T20:11:15-04:00 2006-02-03T20:11:15-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5075#p5075 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by chemelec — Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:11 pm


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2006-02-03T19:10:28-04:00 2006-02-03T19:10:28-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5071#p5071 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by BillyHydrogen — Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:10 pm


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2006-02-03T19:05:40-04:00 2006-02-03T19:05:40-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5070#p5070 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Jebus: All I am Trying to say to BillyHydrogen is he Need to study this subject some more. Learn the Formulas and all the "in's and outs". I NEVER Meant that as an Insult and I hope He didn't take it that way.

Relying on other people to show him something May Not prove to be correct.

And I hope BillyHydrogen Persues that knowledge quest.

AlaskaStrar: Full Wave Rectification Rectifies Both Positive and Negative Waveforms, Making it More Efficient. But there is STILL Ripple. Otherwise it wouldn't be Necessary to Filter supplies in Power Amps or Elsewhere.
Re: Lag and Lead: Capacitance and Inductance have Nearly Perfect Opposite Effects at a Specific Frequency.

Trival: For Your Information, I was Contracted to Invent those Products.
I Have NEVER Cheated anyone out of Any Money. Also Definately Never with a Patent.

The Patents I hold were Paid for by the Companies I was contract by at the time. My Name is on the Patents because I Am the Inventor, which is the law. Ownership of the designs is by both me and those companies, but I have No Interest to Build and Distibute any Product. I'm a Designer.

I have also Designed some devices For Sears Canada and Numerous other Reputable large companies.

That Statement is Just a Bunch of Crap.

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2006-02-03T18:31:08-04:00 2006-02-03T18:31:08-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5067#p5067 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by Jebus — Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:31 pm


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2006-02-03T18:25:35-04:00 2006-02-03T18:25:35-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5066#p5066 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by Jebus — Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:25 pm


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2006-02-03T18:23:02-04:00 2006-02-03T18:23:02-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5065#p5065 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by thrival — Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:23 pm


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2006-02-03T18:16:10-04:00 2006-02-03T18:16:10-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5064#p5064 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by BillyHydrogen — Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:16 pm


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2006-02-03T16:55:41-04:00 2006-02-03T16:55:41-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5060#p5060 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by AlaskaStar — Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:55 pm


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2006-02-03T16:38:06-04:00 2006-02-03T16:38:06-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5059#p5059 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by wildman — Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:38 pm


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2006-02-03T15:35:31-04:00 2006-02-03T15:35:31-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5056#p5056 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> "Pure DC" and "Pure Sine Wave".

But your Typical Meter CAN'T Accuratey Measure other Waveforms for eiher Voltage or Current.
Therefore It is Not Correct for a Square Waves, Sawtooth Waves or any other waveform. Especially true for Mixed Waveforms.
Your Output is a Mixed Waveform.

Additionally when using a device such as a Welding Transformer, Because of the Inductance, You also have "Phase Lead and Phase Lag". This Severly Disrupts Accurate Measurements

I would suggest you go to your Public Library and get some books and do some reading on this.

One very good book is the "ARRL Handbook" for Radio Amateurs.
It covers a Lot of topics on power, waveforms, phase and measurements.

Probably I'm wasting my time saying this, But You have a Lot to learn.

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2006-02-03T13:54:35-04:00 2006-02-03T13:54:35-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5055#p5055 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by BillyHydrogen — Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:54 pm


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2006-02-03T13:20:25-04:00 2006-02-03T13:20:25-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5053#p5053 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]>
Considering the Differences between the AC Input and the DC Output, It isn't the Voltage Drops that are really Important. It is the Wattage Differences. You can't Easily Measure these Differences with a VoltMeter.
The Output Contains Different Waveforms than the Input and a conventional meter will Not give a Correct Reading.
A True RMS Meter is Better, But Still has its Limitations as it can only measure RMS within a limited range of waveforms.

To Be Accurate, You need to Measure the True RMS Wattage on the Input.
You than need to measure the Actual True Wattage being Consumed by your load.
And Finally the Output DC Wattage.

Than Compare these figures to determine if there is Actually any GAIN.

Believe Me, I totally understand What your doing, and Yes you do get an Output that APPEARS to be Free. But in Reality the Power to your load is Reduced by the Power Out. Therefore No actual Gain.

However, I can understand Why you think your getting something for nothing and with your limited knowledge, there is no way I can get you to understand this, Unless you actually get your friend to Correctly Perform the Above Tests.
Yes it Sort of Works, But No there is No Real GAIN.

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2006-02-03T12:56:50-04:00 2006-02-03T12:56:50-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5052#p5052 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by BillyHydrogen — Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:56 pm


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2006-02-03T12:32:08-04:00 2006-02-03T12:32:08-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5051#p5051 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by chemelec — Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:32 pm


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2006-02-03T12:27:26-04:00 2006-02-03T12:27:26-04:00 https://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498&p=5050#p5050 <![CDATA[propane alternative]]> Statistics: Posted by WaterFireHO — Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:27 pm


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