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Frank Roberts the real thing or not

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Frank Roberts the real thing or not

Postby eraser1 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:46 am

A pdf named D16 contains detailed plans to build a water splitter
> built by frank roberts that he has said he ran a 3 litre engine with it.
He uses only tap water and 45 khz @90% duty cycle.
There is no transformer used as in bobs to create resonance.

I have tested different frequencies and my gas output does not change it only changes when i change the duty cycle.
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> Has anyone tried to replicate this system or is it just a fake?
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Postby zendog » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:53 am

Eraser1-

I have never heard of this fellow Frank Roberts or his system. Have you any weblinks or other info about him? Where can one have a look at his plans?

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Postby eraser1 » Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:36 am

here is a link to a file writen by Patrick Kelly descibing the system of Frank Roberts http://www.geocities.com/eraser1.geo/D16.pdf

and this here is a txt file from the watercar group at yahoo with all of his messages and replys
http://www.geocities.com/eraser1.geo/Fr ... To1010.txt
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Postby zendog » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:06 pm

Hi-

Thanks for the links. I had a quick glance at his proccess. This Frank guy is very thorough and clear in his instructions and information. Seems he has the right credentials too, I think this system needs to be looked at carefully. It doesn't seem as though it would be too hard for most cell builders to replicate.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention-

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Postby MarkinAustralia » Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:28 pm

It may appear easy to reproduce, but no one has ever got anything near Franks figures.Also if you read the threads you will see a lot of inconsistancies.
No one ever independently confirmed his figures.
To be honest..I think the device worked as a booster but never ran a car on its own.
People are getting better results doing the bob Boyce designs
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Postby emmett » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:58 pm

The thing that always bugged me about FR is he always followed any new info that BB put out then claimed it as his own.... interesting
The best way to up the success rate is to double the failure rate.
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Postby Bob Boyce » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:14 pm

Hey Wayne, long time no see. How are things coming along down there? I've had some pretty interesting developments since we last talked, we need to chat again sometime.

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Postby emmett » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:30 pm

I gotta get my instant messanger back up and will ping ya. Things are going good getting back to normal. I'll be in touch
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Postby redback » Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:59 am

Hi All.
Has any one ever tried the electronic circuit that Frank has on pdf D16.
I am thinking on buying the componants and see if i can get it to work.
Any advice. :?

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Postby Pinhead » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:00 pm

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Postby kevinsatterfield » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:10 pm

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Postby Pinhead » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:14 pm

You mean the watercar Yahoo! group? That "forum" is very hard to follow, but I'm slowly sifting through the posts.
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Postby kevinsatterfield » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:37 pm

yeah....i'll post some piks here on the project pages soon as i get a unit ready...im go'n for a 20 something cell as information becomes available.Its a fun project to do and is the most enjoyable xpierience ive had yet at building a cell.The contruction method is a key factor in the project for it to be so fun to do.If you enjoy woodworking and things like that its a must to do project ,not that thers wood involved its just the being square and cut'n slots and things as it comes together that makes it fun to do.Its a flooded cell that doesnt get hot and ..well you'd just have to build one to see wat realy makes it fun.
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Postby Bob Boyce » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:55 am

I don't put a lot of faith in Frank Roberts claims.

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Postby kumaran » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:17 am

Sorry if I misunderstood Roberts design.

I think Frank Robert runs his cell under vacum. From Patrick Kellys document, Patrick emphasize on using bubbler for protection purpose on original Roberts design.

The cell should be directly connected into air intake. The vacum (below atm) from air intake causes the cell produce more gas. I also read somewhere that by just using two electrodes cell which connected to air cond pump then to air intake gives more than 50% extra MPG. No safety bubbler in this design also.

How about amps draw & heat for cells running under vacum?
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