Gas requirement?

[weggl]

G’day All

I noticed that Bob only runs stationary engines on hydroxy. The question is what size engines and how much hydroxy? I imagine that there would be a large amount of cells running on one of his electronic devices.
How does one find our how much gas is required to run say a stationary engine under constant load say one of a 4/L capacity?
The reason I ask this is that I have a mate who has one driving a pump. The reason he has a petrol engine is because that is what he had.
Another friend of mine is interested in the current project and is wondering if a larger boost unit could be used on his interstate truck that has a 13/L diesel motor. So to those out there that have had experience with such things I pose these questions.

I must add that I am grateful to you lot on the forum you have been of much help to me, so a say thank you all.
Glenn also said that he is building a 19-cell unit with an inverter, does this mean Glenn that it will be running on AC? If this is the case, why AC?
Is the unit for boosting purposes if so how big is the engine? It sounds like it would produce a lot of gas.

I am currently waiting on the delivery of some 3mm PVC for gaskets as I am re-building my unit; I have re -sanded the plates with 40-grit emery hope that’s coarse enough?
Glenn asked about water on top of my cell in regard to leakage, what I am doing Glenn is keeping the gaskets below the plates by 1/16 inch the top of the plates will be covered with around 3mm of epoxy so I will have 3mm over the plates in one flat layer and the epoxy will be an additional 1/16 inch over the gaskets with 2 -1/4 inch holes coming up through the epoxy for water entry and gas venting.

Will be posting some photos soon.

Warren Eggleton

[glenn_aircooled]

my 19 cell unit is to develop my understanding of resonance and the electronics
required.
The 19 cell unit for boosting my car will Have an inverter to turn DC
14.0 volts into 14.0 V pulsing at [ something like 18 KHz? ,I'll have to look that
up again...] and put that through a Torroidal transformer to step voltage up
to 35 V. Then applying that to the cell as Pulsing DC at That Freq...

Note : "this is not Bob's Resonance system". It is just an experiment
that hopefully should produce a little more Hydroxy than just Straight DC.
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The unit is just for boosting. It will produce a healthy amount of Hydroxy,
Not a lot.
The one I am using for Boosting has small plates - which means that small
current will be used.
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The point of using more plates [ besides experience in this experiment ]
is that you get a " uniting field " around the group.
This is a part of the Bob system.
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I really need to see pics of your design. I like the sound of the automatic
feed / levelling system on yours But
It seems to me that it is very close to promoting leakage - but that is probably
because I can not picture your design.
Look forward to seeing them.
A sketch is good too, you can use the Paint program Within Programs / Accessories if you have XP.
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Here's one I prepared earlier.....
http://oupower.com/index.php?dir=_Other ... &PageNum=3

Glenn.

[glenn_aircooled]

So from my Poor understanding : -

I have done sketch, it is the Third pic on this page, near bottom of page.
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http://oupower.com/index.php?dir=_Other ... &PageNum=5
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Now You can set me straight, Mate.
Glenn.

[weggl]

Glenn,
Your sketch is correct; there is a revivor above the plates with a float valve for water level. I figured that, as the distance from the top of the plates to the top of the epoxy was greater than the gap between the plates that the current would take the path of less resistance.
The top edges of the plates will be covered with epoxy and the vent holes I could make them smaller if it would help.
I can’t see how the cell level could be kept up without some very complicated arrangement.
However you are better equipped than I to inform me, so what to do?
Haven’t figured out how to post photos yet and I don’t have XP I have a PC running 2000
But mostly I use a Mac don’t get all the viruses etc.
Warren

[glenn_aircooled]

Yeah , its great not having those viruses etc.
I think 2000 might have the Paint program too.
Making the holes smaller may help A Little but I dont like restricting
the outlet for Hydroxy.
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For a start : Try doing a test with the Electrolyte level a little below the holes
in the gaskits.
Check the output , efficiency etc.
Then allow the level to drop Without re-filling......
Note Time taken and occasionally do the output / efficiency test to see how
much difference it actually makes.
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To compare your efficiency / output...... over-fill and check.

You may find that you could add a specific quantity of top up liquid for
every hour of running [ Note this top up liquid is Pure Distilled water ].
Then just a quick check every week to make sure its keeping at correct level
when running in the car...
surely that wouldnt be too much trouble.
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The automatic filler could deliver the set quantity after every hour of running, use electronic timer to measure time and
small pump run for measured time.
Car movement sloshes liquid level around the unit to effect leveling.
Also any cells that over fill will froth from top and push the excess
over to other cells. Yes a small detriment to efficiency occurs as frothing
happens but this is not for long - as long as over-all level is not too
high.
You can have an ammeter guage on your dash to see if current goes too
high then you know there is a problem.
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You may find that the useage in car is not too bad - especially for short trips
and you could just manually refill and get to try out your unit with out the
complications of auto filling.
Glenn.