Provoking Thoughts to motivate Discovery

[AlaskaStar]

[Chris]

Hi Alaska,

I am of a little bit different opinion here.

1:4 ratio would require extremely low RPM's on the internal combustion engine. Cruising speed for my car in overdrive right now (I have a manual transmission) is around 2,300 RPM's. If I were to drop that by a factor of 4 it would be somewhere around 600 RPM's and be very rough. The engine would also have very little power as engines are known to produce their best power in a "bell curve" near the top end of their RPM range. I think somewhere around 75% of the way to redline is where most will hit their max torque. Max efficiency may be at a different spot, but definitely not at the LOW end of engine RPM's.

What I might suggest is a way to have an engine detect "load" or torque requirements and start shutting down cylinders. Let's take a 4 cylinder car for example. I would think in today's technology it would be a fairly simple matter to allow the engine to start shutting down cylinders as torque requirements drop off. I'm not suggesting that the engine just shut down specific cylinders, but rather that it rotates so that each cylinder gets proper use and even wear.

In other words if the engine determined that it could run off 3 instead of the 4 cylinders as you are driving down the highway, it shuffle things around so that instead of having all 4 cylinders in use every 2 revolutions (2 revolutions per 4 cycles), you would only have 3 cylinders in use every 2 revolutions. It could easily rotate the OFF cylinder through the engine so that each cylinder received the same utilization and engine wear.

As a further example if the engine determined it could run on just 1 cylinder for the current stretch of roadway, then the system would rotate the ON cylinder through each of the 4 available cylinders in the engine.

This strategy would achieve your same 1:4 ratio that you were trying to express in gearing, but it would do it in a manner I believe to be much more conducive to the engine's operation.

I'm no engine expert, but I imagine this would work far better. In fact, you could even have it drop down below a 1:4 ratio in that 1 cylinder could be fired whenever power was needed, just like the old Hit & Miss engines.

It would be very interesting to see how this would play out indeed.

[hydrocurious]

hello all,

Chris, reading your post reminded me of cadillac engine that was V8,6,4
its engine computer would "shut off" cylinders as you approched cruising speeds and cut them on again in load requiring situations.. i don't think there are many of those vehicles on the road, if that tells you anything...

[Chris]

Is that because they were too fuel efficient? Is it because they were foolish and cylinders 1 - 4 were always on 100% of the time causing uneven wear in the engine and multiple problems?

I'd be interested in seeing documented results from these engines; I'll have to do some searching.

Rotating the cylinders that fire would of course be the best method to ensure even wear in the engine. Furthermore, I bet you could reduce to far less then 4 cylinders firing constantly!

[hydrocurious]

[AlaskaStar]

[AlaskaStar]

the ratio on the 8th truck i bought, was horrible (at one time i has a FLEET of Ford 1 Ton Flatbed pickups for no apparant reason, but friends found it convenient to borrow them, with permission of course)
the truck had a diesel engine...which wasn't too bad. it had a C6 Transmission (NO OVERDRIVE, just 1,2,D [AKA 3rd with auto-shift to get there] Neutral, reverse and of course Park) the gear ratio in 3rd gear was 1:1. the REAR Differential RING and PINION ratio was this unGodly good stump pulling ratio. i use to rally it against my brother (who thought his Chevy was the thing to worship) and we would go out to an empty parking lot, hook a chain to the front bumbers, and try to drag each other in REVERSE, each and every time i would just drag him around in circles with his tires just squealing away and rubber burning off. i had the torque, though his was also a diesel, he had close ratio gear, and the reverse ratio of both tucks were so close you could almost call it the same.

however that truck average a top speed of 40 MPH (redline) and after i junked those gears and put in a set on 3.08:1 gears that truck's mileage jumped from 4-5 mpg, to almost 20 MILES PER GALLON. i think if i remember right the ratio worked out to something like 7.- something rather to one ratio. maybe if we use the torque of a low speed, high compression motor, and an engine management computer that could instead of shutting off cylinders, do a "lean burn", Which by the way is possible on diesel engines, and when the load is "leveled", engage the ratio doubler or tripler or what-not, and so the rpm's drop to JUST ABOVE idle, and your fuel consumtion drops accordingly.

geez it's almost midnight already...oh well...just another day in paradise...
well i'll try to find someone who can make me a website, and then i can publish my pictures, VIDEOS of cars running on hydrogen, HOW TO SET THEM UP, (which is simpler than you think) and would provide an outlet (which i REALLY SERIOUSLY NEED) for the all night experiments, that make my wife jealous of my time. i have a camera set up for my computer that i can use WITH FULL AUDIO that is synchronized to the video that is also COMPACT and i can publish to the web. you might find it interesting to see live experiments...how they turn out, and watch the tach on the car peg, and hold at pegged for a LONG time, where most cars self destruct, this one doesn't....
i have so much frigging information that i started printing them out, and i now have a book (binder type) that is 4" thick and i'm thinking about starting a new one because it is too full.

well anyway best of luck to y'all, right now in the "land of the midnight sun" it is now midnight, and the sky is still bright enough to drive WITHOUT Headlights...

Tata

[bhaas]

I'll make a website. I have lots of time at the moment since I have no
job. I had a free forum like this one but it got taken down since no one
was posting there. (Neither was I). I set it up in hopes of getting off of some of these inefficient and unorganized e-mail groups but this was an active group so I used this one the most. Good place here. You can post pics and videos here. I have a server on my computer that I host/link pics and files to. Let me know.

Brad...

[Chris]

I know I have been saying it's coming for a long time now... well that's because it was a lot of coding.

At any rate, I have the software very near completion which will allow people who are members of the forum, to create their own "Project" areas on OUPower.com and then add text just like all of my projects.

This will all be achieved through a simple upload and management mechanism so there won't be a nasty learning curve.

I'm ready to start testin the software and have contacted 2 people already to see if they would like to volunteer to be guinea pigs for me.

Bottom line is you won't have to go anywhere ...very soon you will be able to post all that you like in your own project section right here on OUPower.com

[AlaskaStar]

ok, someone keeps asking about aluminum as part of the process. NO! IT IS NOT!

ok look at how a CPU heat sink is CONSTRUCTED, its DESIGN, and the way it is SHAPED, look closely, and you will hopefully notice a large amount of surface area in a small space. i am completely aware of what a cpu heat sink is make of. however i am not asking what is is made of. the material it is constructed of is completely IRRELEVANT. the point is LARGE SURFACE AREA in SMALL SIZE. that is the point of the the HEAT SINK thought process. i know that aluminum is EXPENSIVE to make.
so, if it was cheap, and only worth $10 per ton ($10.00=2,000 POUNDS), the material would not be aluminum.



ok, i'm done letting off steam. time to write something else.

now here is something i have been working on (spare time) we all know that 2 dissimilar metals in an electrolyte will set up a charge.

ok, use 2 metallic substances lets pick an easy one for starters,
ZnSO4 (Zinc Sulfate) can be bought at a local feed store that sells fertilizer for large crops.
CuSO4 or Copper Sulfate can be bought from a chemical supply for electroplating, among other things.

both of these "sulfates" are derivitives of Suluric Acid.
anyone want an "Over Unity" power source that as you draw power, it makes fuel could make good use of this. look at the Edison Cell design.

also BOTH of these sulfates are in powder form (and look a lot like crystals, similar to salt)

both of these have a "saturation" point like sugar or salt in water.
both of these have a polarity. look at the Valence charts.


mix apropriate amounts of each (Preferrably EQUAL for starters) in water.
now there are 2 ways to do this:
1. put your electrodes in, and put DC power to it, and get hydrogen and Oxygen, and in the same due process make sulfuric acid, AND electroplate your electrodes, in which you now have an Edison cell that when topped off with water, makes 1.0 volts. draw the power off and watch hydrogen and oxygen come off the top.

2. use magnetics. i am aware that Zinc and Copper are NOT magnetic. study quantum physics and you will find out differently. think of it like a HOLLOW CORE transformer. in a hollow core transformer, copper wire wrapped around a hollow core with X number of wraps, then another wire (SEPARATED) wrapped around that with a different number of wraps. this TRANSFORMER uses MAGNETIC POWER to INDUCE a current from one winding to the next. keep in mind that neither copper or zinc are magnetic in everyday use. this doesn't imply that they will not generate power in the presence of a magnetic field. so wrap your container of water+ CuSO4 + ZNSO4 with wire to be used as a magnetic field when energized. remember that you no longer have electrodes directly touching the chemicals inside the container. that is what the CuSO4 and the ZnSO4 is used for. your electrodes are thoroughly mixed inside the container. since the container was hopefully made of something NON-metallic, there is no chance of electroplating. cycle the power to the magnetic field coils on and off in rapid sucession like a frequency, this will induce a HIGH VOLTAGE SPIKE amongst the metals INSIDE the container.
look at how the high voltage automobile ignition coil works- as the primaries are energized, it becomes nothing more than a magnet-when the primaries are DE-ENERGIZED, the "invisible" Magnetic "explosion" of the field that has destabilizedis absorbed into the secondary windings and you have a higher voltage that is capable of jumping the gap of the spark plug to ignite the fuel mixture.
if the same principle of destabilizing magnetic fields are used to induce voltage inside the container....AND using the FREQUENCY OF not using as a radio emitter, but putting the on/off frequencies of the field coils around the containeron the same FREQUENCY of a microwave....then what do you have?

write back...i'm interested in hearing results. i'm still contructing my unit.
my small one works great...i want a bigger one. something that can be put stationary and used as a filling station.

AlaskaStar

[Bob Boyce]

It would be quite a technical challenge to find a switching transistor or FET to operate at 2.45 Ghz. Even microwave devices would radiate RF. Try getting a 2.45 Ghz pulse train to travel through a coil of any dimension of consequence. Even a piece of wire would behave as a choke at those frequencies, which is why waveguides are used in microwave applications.

Bob

[kww]

I don't know what I'm talking about, but the idea of a group of transistors firing in rapid succession came to mind.
Kevin

[BEMET]

Calcium sulfate meets the requirements I think. Whether it should be used with the CuSO4 or ZnSO4 I don't know. Maybe either?

As far as harmonics. My understanding is not that you must generate the exact frequency but can generate a resonate of that Hz and then the cascade can occur. Wrapping a long coil wire around the container and then running the engine at 2450 rpm should hit the sweet spot harmonic. This set up should generate hydroxy at any rpm and increase the generation as the rpm increases.

I will give it a try as soon as I can get some plaster of Paris and fertilizer. I already have an electrolosis bottle hooked up on my truck. This is getting interesting.

BEMET

[BEMET]

One more thought. What would happen if you put the electrolyte solution ZnSO4/CuSO4 on an induction cooker hot plate and adjust the hz to the 2450?

Fish processors have a lot of calcium waste (bones and shells).

More things to test.

Lot

[AlaskaStar]