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How a hydroxy booster may really work.

Postby waterbard » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:01 am

Any one study how nitrous works in a ICE, and why it works?

Here is a little clip from wikipedia

Internal combustion engine

Main article: Nitrous


In racing, nitrous oxide (often just "nitrous" in this context) is sometimes injected into the intake manifold (or prior to the intake manifold; some systems directly inject it into the cylinder) to increase power: even though the gas itself is not flammable, it delivers more oxygen than atmospheric air by breaking down at elevated temperatures, thus allowing the engine to burn more fuel and air. Additionally, since nitrous oxide is stored as a liquid, the evaporation of liquid nitrous oxide in the intake manifold causes a large drop in intake charge temperature. This results in a denser charge, and can reduce detonation, as well as increase power available to the engine.

The same technique was used during by World War II Luftwaffe aircraft with the GM 1 system to boost the power output of aircraft engines. Originally meant to provide the Luftwaffe standard aircraft with superior high-altitude performance, technological considerations limited its use to extremely high altitudes. Accordingly, it was only used by specialized planes like high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, high-speed bombers and high-altitude interceptors.

One of the major problems of using nitrous oxide in a reciprocating engine is that it can produce enough power to destroy the engine. Power increases of 100-300% are possible, and unless the mechanical structure of the engine is reinforced, most engines would not survive this kind of operation.

It is very important with nitrous oxide augmentation of internal combustion engines to maintain temperatures and fuel levels so as to prevent preignition, or detonation (sometimes referred to as knocking or pinging).


So, then the more OXYGEN you get into an engine to combust more gasoline, the more power you have. Well, what if a hydrogen booster actually provide more oxygen to oxize the gasoline than hydrogen to combust in the chamber?

It seems like there is a such a concentration on hydrogen production, that oxygen has been overlooked by most. If you electrolyze water into 2 separate cathode containers, and ignite either gas, it will make a small boom. Hydroxy has them combined for a much bigger boom, per unit volume.

Hydroxy also recombines back to ? something, if not used properly with no catalyst, and no caboom. (This one has got me thinking for some reason.)

So I'm thinking, leaning a the intake will produce pinging, heat, and possibly a damaged head. What methods do we know of that will reduce pinging? Grooves? Foggers? 160 degree thermostats? Can we advance the timing closer to top dead center for more efficiency?

Where does this heat come from really? If NOS is added just to put more oxygen in the chamber, they experience a reduced pinging. It doesn't make sense. Turbo chargers? more air, more efficiency.

I would like to get some brainstorming on this as I have an extra engine to play with now, and am open to trying some new things.
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Re: How a hydroxy booster may really work.

Postby mos68x » Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:28 pm

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Postby waterbard » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:02 am

Thanks for explaining that to me. I did some more research and found that even the most modest burning matter can become violent in the presence of mucho oxygen. It got me thinking about how the heat in a combustion cylinder could be used to break apart water with a catalyst, but I will start a new thread on that one.
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