what engine you run with oxyhydrogen
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Statistics: Posted by eco — Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:30 am
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Myren:you must first found basic info about hydrogen(internet)
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Statistics: Posted by eco — Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:23 am
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between 4% up to 75%
which is great! So this means it is flammable in concentrations of 4% Hydrogen + 96 % air (but is not very powerful, since you must heat up other elements present in the air)
I would guess that you would have to test a little at a time, e.g. "play with the air intake"
I personally would use the gas mixture straight off of the electrolyzer, roughly 66% Hydrogen and 33% Oxy, then mix air from the intake.
Kevin is right about not really knowing, I have been gathering as much information as possible from all places, and even government (Sandia) labs cant agree on mixtures that are "correct".
The problem is that existing ICE's are only at best around 20% efficient, so you must put in 80% more than that in order to pre-plan the waste...thus the need for Huge amounts of hydrogen....BUT....tests show that since the flammability limits are so low that "Combustion" (explosions) are a reality at very low concentrations....
so again, since there are so many variables involved (electrolyzer design & eff, ICE design & eff, Air & Hyd mixture, etc) you will probably have to just experiment.
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Statistics: Posted by Jay — Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:19 am
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Does anyone know the proportion between hydrogen and air to get a engine to run smooth.
If you know the proportion, it will be more easy to calculate how much hydrogen that is needed!
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Statistics: Posted by myren — Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:00 am
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Amazingly ther are still people that have'nt grasped that hydrogen can be made 4 diffrent levels of potency. Ortho/para/deuterium/and the radio active tritieum or how ever ya spell that.Yes you are rite about something new all the time....distingueshing between between diatomic and monatomic has been a challenge for most and some may never realize the diffrence between the last two.Then who knows how many levels there are of helium.Allways somethinh new.At least for now tho we should understand the diffrence between diatomic and monatomic hydrogen,I may be off a little on my own understanding but we do know that there are at leats 3 diffrent levels of hydrogen gas being made to date with vast diffrencies in potency.I think you'll find it very hard if not impossible to find correct numbers for hydrogen to compare for use in an ICE.If you found numbers somewhere it was probably for bottled hydrogen wich is the lowest level of hydrogen.....I may be wrong ......
Statistics: Posted by kevinsatterfield — Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:59 am
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Statistics: Posted by eco — Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:59 pm
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Thanks for your answers!
Kevin: That is exactly the same type of electrolyzer I am linking to.... I have already seen Bob's electrolyzer, but I was hoping to get in contact with him here
I was thinking of making the electrolyzer half the size, and the 120-140 cells so it will match danish wall power 240Vac
Question is: are 6.5LPM enough to run a car with a 1,3 - 1.6L motor
Does anyone know how to get in contact with bob... email phone etc.
I really woud like to talk to Bob some how.... Well time is 23:50 in denmark now, but thanks for taking your time to help me!
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Statistics: Posted by myren — Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:48 pm
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Statistics: Posted by eco — Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:37 pm
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Statistics: Posted by eco — Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:12 am
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Another for sure way to make some gas is like that of Chris's pvc type.Thats what we call a paralle design.
There is a NEW SERRIES design, that of Herman Anderson that is being persued by a few people at the moment.It envolves 12v constant power and a pulsed HV.That hasnt been completed by anyone but Mr.Anderson as of yet, that I know of but of course I dont know everything....lol
Oh yeah there is another paralle design ,that of AntDavidson here in the project section another for sure way to make some gas.
Lots of options but as far make'n enough gas to run your car on nothing but hydroxy would probably like that of Bob Boyce's welder type.I cant verify that my self but it can be verified to make more gas than any of the other methods that have been completed.
There may even be more methods that are completed and tested.
Statistics: Posted by kevinsatterfield — Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:05 am
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If those problems are not of concern GREAT. Then I would wanna know how much excess power your vehichle has from the alternator before going further.
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Statistics: Posted by myren — Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:59 am
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Well about the money, I am willing to spent a lot if it can be done. I am allied with a auto mechanic in this project, and if it is necessary to change the camshafts he can do that.
We was thinking of using an older car with 1.3 to 1.6L motor.... No turbo... These engine's runs about 3000rpm going about 100km/hour.
To start I am interested in making a electrozyzer that can make enough hydrogen to run this motor size.
In Denmark small cars goes from 1-1,5L medium: 1,6-1,9L large:2,0-and over.
If you have a car with "large" motor size you also pay taxes because of the greater pollution
... and a gallon fuel cost about $7If I can make an electrolyzer that can produce enough hydrogen, then we will find the right car with this motorsize and modify to fit the system.
I was thinking of the highvoltage type described in this file on page 10
But I am not sure! I am working as electronic engineer, so the electronic part will not cause so many problems...
My problem is that I think many of the people in the forums around are theorist... I mean they have not tried to make a big electrolyzer for real.
I also see that some make reactors and others make electrolyzers, and the reactors make most hydrogen... I kont know exact what the difference is!
I really hope you can help me making enough hydrogen !
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Statistics: Posted by myren — Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:39 am
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