Here is a comparison of flat plates and the coil. All things are equal- current, water, electrolizer, metal, etc. For testing, one level teaspoon arm and hammer baking soda was added to one gallon distilled water. Test performed outdoors, in a trade breeze. Bob Boyce does not recommend using baking soda as it may emit harmful levels of carbon monoxide.
1. 10 plates- 2x2", 80 sq. in. surface, 80 in. edge.
2. 4 plates- 2 1/2x3", 60 sq. in. surface, 44 in. edge.
3. 2 coils- 2x15 divided by 2, 60 sq. in.(48 if you don't count the raised area), 60 in. edge.
#1 is superior in surface area by over 25% to the coil.
#2 is equal in surface area but superior with 25% less power losing edge.
Cells #1 and #2 also have more consistent anode-cathode spacing.
And the coil loses 12 sq. in. to the raised area, leaving 48" working surface.
Both flat plate cells should greatly out-perform the coil in normal dc electrolisis- period.
I am now using Roebic crystal drain opener from Lowes, as it is claimed to be lye. I use 1/4 teaspoon to one gallon distilled water. Gas prodution seems to be more combustable, with more hydrogen (the larger bubbles).
Here the cells all run 12 vt dc start up. In the coil cell, on right, you can see the airator. At the top is an adjustable drip irrigation emitter (Home Depot- $.50, DIG #39), 1/8 tube to aquarium bubbler. I got the bubbler at Wal-mart- 2 for $1.35. But they will decompose when heated. Keep your cell cool or use something else.
After a few minutes. The cell with flat 2 1/2x3" plates was eliminated quickly as a low producer.
One theory why the coil seems to outperform flat plates is that the flat plates are + - + - and so on. As such, it is thought that the electricity is working against itself. Think of current as a liquid. If you are pouring a liquid in the pos. flat plate and expecting it to flow smoothly into the neg flat plates, there is a lot of pushing and pulling going on.
In the Mr. G cell, the fluid enters a large area where it is smoothly distributed until it is consumed (or transferred to the neg. coil). The coil has inductive qualities, capacitance, and probably generates a magnetic field too.
Flat plates vs. Mr. G coil cell. All things here are equal. Both cells get full voltage of 12dc, see amp gauge at 8 amps. Cells not warm yet, run a few minutes. Same metal used in both. Same electrolite. Same water. This coil cell runs at about 7+ amps when warm, probably higher when subjected to engine vacuum with a little air coming in the airator. The vacuum cleans the electrodes, and stimulates more rapid production.
Sorry, don't have an operational pulsed system working yet. I have several, I just don't get it.
The flat cell may look like two plates are touching, it is just an illusion.
There is nothing that I would like better than to post output. The output on this cell is very low. And trying to measure it when it is actually in operation on an engine is not within my capabilities.
For now I am only able to provide a visual example. As stated, it is not pulsed electrolisis. As an example for straight dc boosting, it appears to provide many benefits over other designs.
The initial idea here is to get something like this into the hands of the general consumer. Just hook it up and go. Similar devices, actually inferior, are getting 20-70% reduction in fuel use.
01 Toyota truck with 3" cell. Relay on battery
switched on by power wire running to wiper motor.
Both relay grounds run to battery, as main relay power with fuse.
Booster mounted to frame at base and fan shroud at top,
with stainless clamps. Bubbler mounted to firewall.
Still need to install check valve in hose, as upon turning off motor,
vacuum in system pulls water from bubbler into cell.
Man bought truck new. Upon starting, he noticed smoother idling.
When driving, he noticed more power at lower RPM's.
This man is very pleased and wants to upgrade his system ASAP.
Also need to install an amp gauge, which helps monitor water level.
Two oxy. sensors were covered with foil. A MAF sensor adjuster was also added,
with dash mount tuning. Is is made from a 50k pot. Facing knob out with terminals at bottom-10k resister goes on left side, then to ground; center terminal goes from MAF to computer; right terminal goes to MAF. On Toyota the wire used was gray, in the center of the five wires. To find the wire, use a test light and probe wires while engine is running, when engine stalls, that is the wire to cut and splice into.
This cell has two Mr. G cell in series, giving each 6 volts. |
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