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stcwater Regular Poster
Joined: 27 May 2009 Posts: 10 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: me again |
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Hello Sixth sense. Thanks so much for the contribution, I wonder where everyone else went!?!?
Anyway, to answer SOME questions for you. I have left my WFC running (in the conditioning) for hours and it doesn't get overly warm or hot. The thing is, it's sitting in the hot sun and that heats it a little. but not more than you would expect from a normal gallon of water just left to heat in the sun. So i believe my system doesn't heat.
As far as combustible product, yes, i scared the life out of my wife igniting this stuff the first time. Later, i was able to keep it in my sealed chamber and release it for ignition also (this video is on my site http://www.flamingh2o.com). So that's combustible. I've tried just leaving an overturned bowl over the top of the wfc and capture the product, assuming that it was lighter than air, and then later lighting it. but i have been unsuccessful in that attempt.
I'm taking and archiving your calculation posts here, as they will be of much use to me later, and with your permission i'll post them on my website as well, just so there are at least two copies out there for the world of WFC builders. Keep contributing, we'll get this thing nailed dow yet. _________________ -- Is the dream real? |
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sixth sense Regular Poster
Joined: 03 Aug 2009 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: me again |
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| stcwater wrote: | Hello Sixth sense. Thanks so much for the contribution, I wonder where everyone else went!?!?
Anyway, to answer SOME questions for you. I have left my WFC running (in the conditioning) for hours and it doesn't get overly warm or hot. The thing is, it's sitting in the hot sun and that heats it a little. but not more than you would expect from a normal gallon of water just left to heat in the sun. So i believe my system doesn't heat.
As far as combustible product, yes, i scared the life out of my wife igniting this stuff the first time. Later, i was able to keep it in my sealed chamber and release it for ignition also (this video is on my site http://www.flamingh2o.com). So that's combustible. I've tried just leaving an overturned bowl over the top of the wfc and capture the product, assuming that it was lighter than air, and then later lighting it. but i have been unsuccessful in that attempt.
I'm taking and archiving your calculation posts here, as they will be of much use to me later, and with your permission i'll post them on my website as well, just so there are at least two copies out there for the world of WFC builders. Keep contributing, we'll get this thing nailed dow yet. |
Stcwater,
I don't mind you posting it on your website. Actually I am visiting your website once in a while looking for progress and so excited about it.
I hope I can build my wfc sooner. I might post in the next couple of months a proposed burner design that maybe used in for home cooking. I found out that converting a gasoline engine to use hydrogen is more tricky than using LPG. I have seen several LPG converted cars here but I am not sure if I can substitute the brown gas directly with out major modification. i am documenting all of this but this may take a while to materials .
If I'll get my own wfc I would do a calorimetry test to measure the Heating value of the gas produce then compare it with pure hydrogen. I hope I can partner with some school so that I can borrow calorimeter from their lab. The last time I did this was something like 10years ago on my undergrad.If I can get back to my master, I might propose this for a thesis.
a lots of plan, and I hope with the help and enthusiast of the open community I can materials this. |
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llew Regular Poster
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: flow meter |
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Hi Ravzz,
I noticed you are measuring output in liters/hour. Do you have an electronic flow meter or mechanical ??? how much did it cost.???
Thanks
Llew _________________ Hi, I am experimenting with HHO generators. Concentrating on carbureted and mechanical injection diesels. Live in Dalby Qld Australia |
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45acp
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: New but very interested in WFC. |
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To all who want to make a difference!
I'm learning a lot from this forum. I want to build a WFC and am in the process of gathering materials. Building it will not be the hardest thing for me. The electronics is where I'm lost. Will you guys help me with this? It sounds like you have the knowledge with Lawton and Myers designs.
Tired of oil companies and political lies!
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Katisa Regular Poster
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: Here to help |
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I have not posted before but read the forum. I can help with the electronic problems if there is any. the D14 electronic drive is robust and works I constructed 1 just for fun
45acp
the electronics is not so bad you can get all the info you need on the net.
Try using the NE555 ic they tend to be more stable
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llew Regular Poster
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: HHO output |
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Hi Guys,
Firstly the flow meter, I am measuring in liters per minute. The flow meter cost about $10. It is a 4 inch pvc pipe, its on my web site . It is just a pvc pipe going through the bottom of the 4 inch pipe, with a bottle on top. With the bottom cut out. www.angelfire.com/mt/llew. You will see its very easy to make.
HI Katisa I need a device to pulse 12 volts, also to control the amperage. I think the only way I am going to make enough HHO, is by making the electrolyte stronger and control the amperage. What do you think of pulsing 110 volts ??
My plates are 80 sq ins each 16 of them, thats 1280 sq inches. The case is SS with the inside coated with fiber glass. holds 22 liters.
I am only making 1 liter per 3 minutes !! I expected at least 3 l/m.
Help anyone, advice, suggestions. _________________ Hi, I am experimenting with HHO generators. Concentrating on carbureted and mechanical injection diesels. Live in Dalby Qld Australia |
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45acp
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: D14 help |
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Thanks Katisa.
I'm going to have more questions. Did it take a lot of looking to find the parts for the D14? Not sure where to look. Both Lawton's and Ravzz's plans look complete. Anything needed or not needed that was or wasn't on their lists? Did it operate your WFC OK? This is so interesting and exciting I could continue with the questions, but will stop for now.
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Katisa Regular Poster
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: 45acp |
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Sorry but i havent gotten that far electrinics is my line and construkting a WFC is not as easy for me still got a long way to go before i can test my electronics.
In the mean time I am trying to make the electronics perfect, I can generate the puls wave with several ic but I am trying to make 1 that is foolproof and robust. _________________ Gatvol |
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Katisa Regular Poster
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: Sorry 45acp |
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The components is all standerd electronics, try a dealer near you if i can get it in africa you can get it. _________________ Gatvol |
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Katisa Regular Poster
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: Hi Llew |
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To puls dc you need a timer ic NE555 and a mosfet IRF 1010 to limmit your current use a LM338K TO3 you control your curent by changing the volts. Ohms law V=IR volts=curent x resistance.
Pulsing 110v ???? AC or DC DC just use a IRF 850 mosfet but your curent is going to be hight so you will need more than 1 mosfet. _________________ Gatvol |
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45acp
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: Thanks Katsia |
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Katsia
I'll keep you informed of progress of WFC. Still collecting materials. Funds are tight, but still moving forward. Going to try to find electronics also. Thanks again. It's nice to know there's support and help. Has anyone tried a WFC with more than 9 tubes or longer than 9 inches? It seems the greater the surface area the better the hydrogen production.
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kostarv
Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Hello!
Maybe someone could help us with a wise advice? We’re now studying Ravi’s Water Fuel cell Replication from http://www.panaceauniversity.org/ and we faced a conflict:
In this manual we couldn't find the frequency at which the converter “boils” the water. What frequency should we tune the device? Does somebody know?
Thanx in advance
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hydrocars Regular Poster

Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Location: dumpster
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I Can Prove that ravi used Distilled water in his video, Or some sorta very clean purified tap water that was not contaminated.
I'm am not sure what sorta water he claimed to have used, But I know without asking it was very clean. _________________ www.IonizationX.com |
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ismael_34 Regular Poster
Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 6 Location: españa, cadiz
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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hola ravi
thanks my friend thanks  |
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