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MOS68X's new sealed/dry cell
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you good with IC's and semiconductors at all? i have a fairly quick easy problem i think i know the answer to but wanna make sure..... its in the electronics section
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

resident_genius wrote:
entirely off of hho? holy hell. especially a v-8. the CFM is just incredible.

you should think up something better than that ICE under the hood.

i do like your idea of the second gasoline tank.

but you gonna need a pickup with dual tanks for that to look OEM....

Yes, the CFM requirement would be incredible, especially since since I'm into performance so as you can guess I'll be pulling as much as I can from this cell to get more power from the engine.

I'm not talking about two tanks, I'm talking about everything fitting inside my stock tank so that everything looked stock. That means I'd have to completely open it up so that I can put everything inside of it. One half of the tank would be where the cell, pump, and reservior would be, and the other half would be the water tank with coolant piping running through the bottom of it so that it would keep from freezing. I would probably make a circuit for controlling a valve to keep from overheating the water.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

resident_genius wrote:
you good with IC's and semiconductors at all? i have a fairly quick easy problem i think i know the answer to but wanna make sure..... its in the electronics section

I'm not myself, but I do have a friend that I consult that is until I get my electrical engineering degree from ITT Tech.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got my new Holley carburetor yesterday in the mail and I'm anxious to put it on the car. I would have it on right now, but unfortunately I blew a head gasket on the car sunday night so I have to start taking it apart to replace them. I really should have done that before I put the engine in the car, but I didn't take the time since I didn't have the money. So now I'm sitting here taking it apart to do what I should have done before.

Oh, by the way, in case I didn't mention it before I opened the box for my nitrous kit and took out the plate. I tried blowing through it and it doesn't flow very much at all. I'll try taking out the metering jets to see if that will help, if it doesn't then I'll just use this for a short time for the boosting portion of the testing and when it starts to restrict the system I'll sell it on ebay and look for a larger one, or just find another way to implement it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I was disassembling the top of the engine tonight I thought to do some test fitting with the new carburetor and the nitrous fittings under the hood. I know that I have very little hood clearance with the air cleaner so I wanted to be sure what I could put in there without having to move to a different hood. The Holley carb by itself fits fine with the air cleaner under the hood, but it does not fit with the nitrous plate installed. I will have to delay putting the nitrous plate in place, or I will have to buy a cowl induction hood...which of course I wouldn't mind doing, lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After further disassembly I discovered damage in the #7 cylinder and 040 over pistons in this block. Unfortunately the damage will prevent me from having this block prepped, so I have to save some money from sales on other parts to buy a new 350 block and 383 rotating assembly from Summitracing. Hopefully I'll get the parts here and start reassembly and hopefully be finished before I leave. I would like to have enough plates when I return to put a cell together producing enough to feed this motor with plenty of fuel to make tons of power. I'll also have to get a new trans before I return, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear lord.

i've known you were army for years.


and i never understood your s/n until i just had the epiphany....your army MOS is 68 xray.....mental health specialist isnt it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

resident_genius wrote:
dear lord.

i've known you were army for years.


and i never understood your s/n until i just had the epiphany....your army MOS is 68 xray.....mental health specialist isnt it?


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing ROTFLMAO

Yes I have been in the Army for years...yes my s/n is based on my army MOS....however, the designation for that MOS didn't used to be that back 9 years ago. The MOS 68X used to be for the AH-64A Apache attack helicopter, Electronics & weapons specialist. After transitioning to the new MOS 15Y for the AH-64D Apache it included avionics as well. It was after they changed all the 68 series mos's(aviation) to combat support that we became 15 series, and now I think it is the medical stuff that is the 68 series.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After MUCH thought and debating amongst friends on another forum site I've decided to keep this block even with the damage that I've found. I will finish reassemblinbg this engine and run it until it dies and then just build me a new engine or buy a crate engine from the money that I'll have from the deployment. I've already torn the engine all the way down to the block, torn apart the heads, reground all the valves, cleaned the valve seats, put the heads back together, and retorqued the heads on the block. I'll put the rockers and pushrods in tomorrow, and do the initial valve lash after I buy a new set of feeler gauges since I can't find mine. After I get that done I'll drain the old oil/coolant and refill it with new oil and some SeaFoam to get rid of any remaining coolant along with clean the oil areas. After that it's just a matter of closing the motor back up and starting the car again. I'm debating on putting what I do have for a cell in the car right now or waiting until I have the new plates made and put in the cell.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, I'm back again for an update. I have the motor back together now and I'm just waiting to tune the choke on the new carburetor and then tune the rest of the carburetor. I still haven't bolted the carb down for sure yet since I'm still trying to figure out a way to get my nitrous plate under the carb so that I can easily add the hydroxy to the motor and still have it look somewhat normal. I still have to change some of the fittings on the cell so that I can use it in the car with the limited room that I will have. I also have some extended time with the family and the project since I'm temporarily on the non-deployable list thanks to the army from a few years ago, so I might be able to get to the point of getting it into the car if I'm lucky.
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Well as of right now I'm permanently on the non-deployable list thanks to the doctor this morning and they also said that they will either medically board or medically retire me. This really puts me in a bind though so it looks as though I'll be pushing on this some more, at least to get it to booster stage. I've got nitrous plate under the carb with no issues so now I have a point of entry to the motor that will be very consistant between cylinders. Now I'll be focusing on getting more plates and working on getting a working PMA for just the cell since it'll draw more amps than I want off the normal circuitry. I am still planning on using Bob's PWM3G, but since I still haven't actually hooked it up to cell I can't make any claims or even say how much my current will be off the normal alternator. I could hook my cell up the way it is right now, but I still need to at least get a resevior for it and a couple bubblers.
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I finally sold my pistons and rods so I just ordered 101 plates for my dry cell. I will be using revision 4 plates now, in hopes for better flow and a cleaner cell at the bottom where the sediment collects. I'm looking to buy some nitric acid to passivate the plates before I start the conditioning process. All I have to do is order the material for my gaskets now, although I haven't decided if I want to spend the money to have them cut them for me as well to keep the sizes repeatable or if I want to go through the ass pain of doing it myself again.
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This is interesting, I just converted over to Mac from PC and it is certainly different. I just have to learn all the differences and figure out what software is for what. But so far I'm liking this new laptop a lot more than I liked any of my old windows/PC based ones.

Been looking at different types of materials lately since I've been trying to buy new material for my gaskets. I wanted to buy the 100% pure virgin PTFE electrical grade 1/32 thick sheets, but McMaster Carr has stopped selling that material so now I have to find new material to use. Since I spent a lot of time looking at the lists they had and then also comparing each of their strengths and weakness' I think that I have decided to use an SBR rubber bonded paper fiber material. It's cheap and it claims to be resistant to chemicals and water, and it also claims to have excellent dielectric properties.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://cgi.ebay.com/PMA-12-350VDC-Permanent-Magnet-Alternator-Generator-SC_W0QQitemZ280422986740QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414a8333f4

Just found these PMA's on ebay and asked them if they would build one that would go down as far as 1.5-2.5 volts. If they wouldn't build one that would go down that far I also asked if they would sell just the armature they have have.
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