Hello, everyone. This is my first post here so, as a newbie to this forum, I hope it does not come across as too presumptuous.
Someone recently mentioned to me about an experiment conducted by AlaskaStar that involved 17MHz RF into 800 turns of #30 wound on a 2" dia. pvc tube a couple feet long filled with water (and electrolyte?) that produced ridiculous amounts of HHO from just 5 watts total energy input?
Intrigued, I came to OUP looking for it and saw the topic had been moved. I thought maybe it's visible only to members so I joined. Looks now like it was removed entirely or it's visible only to a very select few. I can understand that too. There are similar hidden threads at the EBN forum and for good reason. Some there lacking experience or the common sense to handle it safely might actually injure themselves, or worse. But if you've seen my YouTube video 101-108 and my web site you'll know why I take an interest in resonance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM
http://www.alt-nrg.org/
So far the only relevant resonance thread I have read at OUP is this one involving the use of 42.8 MHz? Or is it 42.8 KHz as mentioned by Tad Johnson? People here seem to use MHz and KHz interchangeably indicating to me very little understanding of RF and resonance at all. I'm an advanced class ham license holder of almost 30 years so you'll have to excuse me if I seem a little intolerant on this topic. These amount to not insignificant discrepancies by a factor of 1000:1.
There's also quite a bit of confusion regarding that "magical frequency." If AS did find a resonance at 17MHz my guess is the inductor became self resonant (aka Tesla) with the distributed capacitance of the PVC dielectric and water inside. BUT, when people write about some magical frequency in terms of Hz, KHz or even MHz I just smile. The only real magical frequency that's going to interact with water at a molecular level is going to be in the GHz range and higher. My personal belief is 1.42. Anything else is just RLC system resonance, including the rumor I heard of the 17MHz experiment. And that's okay. I believe that will work too. That's where I was going in my resonance video.
I also think HHO system resonance is far more dynamic than many believe. It's not only affected by temperature but also chemical impurities and the formation of gas between the plates themselves. Mechanical tuning of plate spacing and inductance values is far to slow to track these wildly fluctuating conditions. For a frequency locked system to work either a tracking oscillator is needed (very expensive and complicated proposition) or the tank circuit which the HHO cell is part of needs to find it's own resonance freely.
If Stan did find a resonance at 21KHz, that still would be specific to his system only, with that particular batch of tap water and those tubes at a given temp, etc etc etc. As I understand it, not even Stan was able to replicate that condition reliably which is another reason he abandoned it in lieu of plasma injectors.
I believe both technologies are relevant, separately and in conjunction with one another.
So, I'm writing to ask if someone can elaborate more on the 17MHz experiment or let me get a peek at the data and construction details for peer review?
Regards,
Z