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Huge Toroid

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Postby Maintenanceman » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:27 am

Holy Crap! That is huge! I wonder what they are planning to do with it though TBH...probable fry somethin id imagine <.<
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Postby hydrodude12 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:41 am

Dude the ATLAS project is a circulatory particle accelerator. That toriod is part of the detection module. The detection module essentially takes pics of a couple of particles moving at near light speed smashing into each other. (usually protons). I have to go now but will post more on this subject later. :D
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Postby JamesThomas » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:09 pm

Amazing how you need something so huge to manipulate something so very, very, very itty bitty (I think that's the proper scientific phraseology).
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Postby Maintenanceman » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:35 pm

Check this out! The Germans have announced they broke the space/time speed barrior....
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/au ... _light.htm
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Postby Maintenanceman » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:37 pm

It makes me think of the disclosure video...and sub-atomic communication theories...talk about pique the curious side of my brain....EEP!
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Postby hydrodude12 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:07 pm

Ok so im back to post more info on the whole ATLAS project.

So basically, you have two protons that start at the LHC (Large Haldron Collider, i think.. :oops: ) which is a circulatory particle accelerator. It basically uses supermagnets to accelerate protons to nearly the speed of light. The ATLAS part of the project is to record the smashing of the protons. It takes special pictures of the resulting explosion of particles that are even smaller than protons (quarks and such) so that researchers can analyze them and create data sets to better understand the particle physics of the universe around us.
More info on the ATLAS module here: http://atlasexperiment.org/index.html

Also, some videos and animations concerning the whole setup can be found here: http://atlasexperiment.org/multimedia/index.html

You can take a virtual tour of the ATLAS project here: http://virtualvisit.web.cern.ch/VirtualVisit/ATLAS/

One theoretical thing that scientists are hoping to do is to create a black hole in the LHC. This can be created by smashing protons together in a particle accelerator. Now there are plenty of other particle accelerators out there to use for this, and it has been tried on others, but other particle accelereators simply are'nt big enough to create the energy required. So, if LHC, the biggest Particle accelerator ever biult, can create the required energy, then we're all set to make black holes. Now, if we do create them, they won't swallow up our planet and kill us all. The fact is, that SO MUCH energy is required to create a black hole, that we wouldnt be able to even find enough power to make a big black hole. If one was created, it would be so small that it would be smaller than atoms, smaller than protons, smaller than electrons, and possibly even smaller than quarks which build up to create protons and electrons. So small that we most likely wouldnt be able to detect them. Except for one thing: Hawking Radiation.

The black hole would be so small that it would dissapte almost instentanouesly after it was created, becuase it wouldnt have nearly enough energy so sustain it. It wouldnt be around long enough to swallow up any matter.

the only way we woudl be able to detect them woudl be by Hawking Radiation. Hawking radiation is basically the radiation that a black hole emits. By anylyzing the data from the ATLAS module, and looking for evidence of hawking radiation, you can find out if a black hole really occured.

Now, I'm very interested in the link that Maintenanceman posted, about the Germans beating the space/time barrier. If they can really move objects at faster than the speed of light... what if you used that technology in a particle accelerator???? You could build up incredible amounts of energy, and maybe enough to create a black hole. Then, scientists could start learning more about the event horizons and other characteristics of a black hole, and possibly (oooooooohhh) WORMHOLES AND TIME TRAVEL that are supposedly associated with a black hole tearing the fabric of space-time.

Just something to think about. =]
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Postby hydrodude12 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:24 pm

Check out this video! It's very interesting and you can see in great detial how the ATLAS modlue works.

It's just so amazingly complex, it boggles my mind!!~!!! :shock: just watch it and you'll see what im talking about.
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Postby hydrodude12 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:25 pm

oops. I never put the link in the above reply. :oops: haha.

here it is: http://atlasexperiment.org/multimedia/f ... sode2.html
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