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Prostate and bladder cancer

Postby Bob Boyce » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:31 pm

What I thought was just lower back pain has turned out to be more serious. While at the docs office yesterday, the doc did an ultrasound to see if he could find the cause of the ever worstening abdominal and lower back pain I have been having. Where my prostate should be, he found a mass that involves the entire prostate and lower bladder. This explains the full bladder feeling and the difficulty with urination I have been having for a while. More tests need to be done. Is there any homeopathic remedies or treatments I should investigate before I submit to traditional medicine?

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Postby AlaskaStar » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:13 am

Yes, there is a few things to look at. Go and see an Oncologist. your blood cells have 2 shields from stuff that makes you really ill. 1 shield down makes you more susecpitble to things like cancer, both down, and even x-rays will bring on cancer. don't believe me? go see an Oncologist, get your blood tested, and ask. best advice I ever heard from a doctor-regarding cancer and men's prostate, as well as mammograms. I am sure that somewhere you can readily get this information.

I wish you well, and hope that you get well soon.

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Postby waterbard » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:54 pm

That really sucks. I feel really bad for you. Its amazing what you have endured up to this point, and with your fighting spirit, I wish you a speedy recovery.
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Postby RetroD » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:53 pm

There appears to be some merit to Quantum Touch. I had a chance to view the DVD and tried the simple technique on myself to help relieve my lower back pain and it worked. Perhaps in tandem with other treatment it 's worth checking out.

Also wishing you a speedy recovery,

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Postby thrival » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:22 pm

Bob:

A lot depends upon what your spirit is willing to try and your
body is able to tolerate. First, do you have any experience with
colon cleansing? Very important books. I've read and recommend
them all, in any particular order:

Cleanse & Purify Thyself by Dr. Richard Anderson
Cure for All Diseases and Cure for All Cancers Hulda Clark
A Cancer Therapy by Max Gerson
Back to Eden by Jethro Kloss

Also see: Cancer Control Society. They have alternative therapies that
work and patients who have survived!

http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/

All cancer is fungal related. You probably have candida in your colon.
Also you need lots of Vitamin C and hydrogen peroxide, injected
rectally (cancer is anerobic, can't tolerate OXYGEN.) Also all cancer
patients according to Gerson, were grossly mineral deficient. Kelp
is highly recommended. Wobe Mugos makes enzymes that digest the
protein coat surrounding cancer cells. The enzyme are made from pea
and lentil sprouts, which you can grow in your kitchen! Sprout juice
(through a hand-crank meat grinder) Carrot Juice/beta-carotene
(kills liver flukes); Zinc! Abstinence! (God cannot fill a leaky bucket.)

Bentonite shakes and diatomaceous earth capsules (for parasites)

CHOMPER formula: Barberry Bark, Cascara Sagrada Bark, Fennel Seed,
Ginger Root, Golden Seal Root, Lobelia Leaf, Myrrh Gum, Peppermint Leaf,
Plantain Leaf, Red Raspberry Leaf, Turkey Rhubarb Root, Sheep Sorrel
Leaf. This is an improved Dr. Christopher formula. All ingredients 1 part
each, 2 parts cascara sagrada. You can buy them all in small quantities
and mix together. I used this formula and it WORKS.

Source of ingredients (very affordable): Monterey Bay Spice Company

www.herbco.com

Nightly enemas or even 3X per day; light vegetarian fare or juice fasting.
(Anderson); NO SALT! (Gerson).

And this important letter!

http://www.betterhealthcampaign.org/you ... -and-herbs
-helped-prostate-cancer-recovery

Getting well requires applied knowledge and is NOT costly. If you know
how to feed your chickens then you will get all this.

I'm researching EM(TM) [effective micro-organisms]. You might want
to contact the author of this webpage:

http://www.eminfo.info/

and

http://www.h-minus-ion.org/

All our love and prayers, Bob
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Postby thrival » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:28 pm

Forgot to mention, cleansing programs will make you tired
and this is normal. Lots of REST. You are on God's time and operating
table.[/u]
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Postby CJMOSS » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:24 am

The self body image in your mind is something to examine. Like the sports guys who visions shooting the baskeball through the hoop over and over, till it goes in, in the minds eye. Keep that image of body health in your mind. Do it over and over till it is right. Where the mind goes the body will follow.

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Postby glenn_aircooled » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:10 am

Extremely sorry to hear that.
Only help I can suggest " with strong positive state of mind, God is
in control, he Loves you. "
I shall pray.
ps. thanks again for all your help.
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Postby catfish » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:27 pm

The Holy Roman Empire stole my pyramid battery
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Postby thrival » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:49 pm

Treatment of Prostate Cancer with Natural Therapeutics:

http://www.naturalhealthvillage.com/MXC ... search=%22
prostate%20cancer%20natural%20cure%22

Nutrient/foods for:

# Calcium D-glucarate
# Selenium
# Broccoli Sprouts
# Green tea
# Maitake Mushroom
# Lycopene

Prostate cancer anecdote:

http://www.truehealth.org/amaureen.html
http://www.mercola.com/forms/prostatitis.htm

B17 (laetrile) of apricot pits, outlawed by the feds, but high in sprouted
seeds. Used in mexico clinics but more effective with Wobe Mugos
enzymes (also found in pea & lentil sprouts, the real super-foods.)

See books by Viktoras Kulvinskas and Anne Wigmore

Grass and weed juices (yes, from the field) mixed with apple juice
and benonite/psyllium seed husk (50:50), added minerals and vitamins
blender shakes, are palatable. I DID ALL this with colon cleansing for 6
months and it works. Amazing crud comes out but needs help. Enemas
are necessary. Add rock dust and clay, lavender oil and H-peroxide
to enema water, absorbs directly into the bloodstream through the
colon wall, kills pathogens, binds with and removes mucoid plaque, and
the parasites. Virtually all dis-ease conditions improve with colon cleansing
because most are caused from our being backed up.

The KEY to good health is the intestinal tract, and benign bacterial flora,
free from encrusting goop. EM bugs eat toxic waste chemicals, but are
ANEROBIC as is cancer! Kill cancer with oxygen! Kill parasites with
essential oils (specifics) and minerals! We are all part of the Great
Experiment called life!

MINERALS:

1. feed & restore tissue

2. suppress noxious bugs

3. bind with, precipitate & remove gluey, encrusted phlegm.

[Phlegm comes from refined grain products and animal proteins--
white flour, pasta, potatoes, milk, eggs, meats and fish can all be
made into powerful industrial glues; plus the body makes it's own
to protect itself from irritants. This creates a lining that gets thicker
thicker over our lives, eventually occluding passage of nutrients
through the intestinal wall causing tissue starvation, and becomes
breeding ground for parasites whose waste products feed cancer.]

Cancer cells are your own cells that mutate into the anerobic state.
Oxygen kills them, but oxgen also oxidizes, so antioxidants (with
minerals) are necessary. Hydrogen peroxide is produced from
O2, O3 when lightening hits surface water. The peroxide kills bugs
and parasites, which is critical because they secrete growth factors
that feed cancer.

Cause of all diseases:

1. constipation

2. poisons

3. parasites

4. malnutrition/tissue starvation

Most of our illness are caused from too much devitalized foods.
Cancer is just a word. If we didn't have a diagnosis it wouldn't
matter; what matter most is how we feel. That is the real barometer.
Getting well can take months and robust health, years, once we
stop all the energy leaks.

The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Prof. Arnold Ehret
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Postby waterbard » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:21 pm

Bzzz...
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Postby glenn_aircooled » Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:55 am

Asked my Father (he's Amature Radio enthusiast) about Cancer of prostate.
He said Readers Digest had article - looked it up....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsicum

Medical Usage
This is excellent source of laxative (purgative) and pain relief. Capsaicin has also been recently shown to have prostate cancer fighting effects.
See also: Capsaicin#Medical

Capsaicinoids
Capsaicin is the main capsaicinoid in chili peppers, followed by dihydrocapsaicin. These two compounds are also about twice as hot as the minor capsaicinoids nordihydrocapsaicin, homodihydrocapsaicin, and homocapsaicin. Dilute solutions of pure capsaicinoids produced different types of pungency; however, these differences were not noted using more concentrated solutions.
Capsaicinoid name Abbrev. Typical
relative
amount Scoville
heat units Chemical structure
Capsaicin C 69% 15,000,000

Dihydrocapsaicin
DHC 22% 15,000,000

Nordihydrocapsaicin
NDHC 7% 9,100,000

Homodihydrocapsaicin
HDHC 1% 8,600,000

Homocapsaicin
HC 1% 8,600,000

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Uses
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Food
Because of the burning sensation caused by capsaicin when it comes in contact with human flesh, it is commonly used in food products to give them added spice or "heat" (piquancy). The degree of heat found within a food is measured on the Scoville scale. Typically the capsaicin is obtained by using chili peppers as the source. A product customarily containing large amounts of capsaicin is hot sauce (varieties of which may contain chili peppers or pure capsaicin).
Capsaicin is a nonpolar molecule, and is therefore hydrophobic. Drinking water to reduce the burning caused by the molecule is ineffective, as the nonpolar capsaicin is unable to dissolve in the polar water molecules, and is instead spread across the surface of the mouth. This works by the same principle that causes oil and water to separate.
Instead, consuming foods high in fats and oils, such as milk or bread and butter, will help alleviate the burning. The lipophilic capsaicin is able to mix freely with the fats in the food and is removed from the surface of the mouth. Alcoholic beverages also dissolve capsaicin due to the solvent characteristics of ethanol. Of course, over time the capsaicin will dissipate on its own accord.
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Medical
Capsaicin was originally used in topical ointments to relieve the pain of peripheral neuropathy, for example post-herpetic neuralgia caused by Herpes zoster ("Shingles"). This original use is reflected in the name of Rodlen Laboratories' capsaicin cream, Zostrix. Today, capsaicin creams are indicated for the temporary relief of minor aches and pains of muscles and joints associated with arthritis, simple backache, strains and sprains.
The treatment typically involves the application of a topical anesthetic until the area is numb. Then the capsaicin is applied by a therapist wearing rubber gloves and a face mask. The capsaicin remains on the skin until the patient starts to feel the "heat" at which point it is promptly removed. The result appears to be that the nerves are overwhelmed from the burning sensation and are unable to report pain for an extended period of time. With chronic exposure to capsaicin, neurons are depleted of neurotransmitters. This leads to reduction in sensation of pain and blockade of neurogenic inflammation. If capsaicin is removed, the neurons recover.
The American Association for Cancer Research reports studies showing that Capsaicin is a killer of androgen-independent prostate cancer cells (PMID 16540674). [1]
Intranasal administration of capsaicin has shown some promise in treating certain kinds of headaches. [2] It may also be helpful in treating chronic sinus infections. [3]

There is more info here but this is the first bit.
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Hope this is helpful.Glenn.
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Postby glenn_aircooled » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:06 am

This personal account of getting Radiation treatment instead of what he
was getting Pushed into (surgery).
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http://www.prostate.org.au/personal2.htm
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Postby glenn_aircooled » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:16 am

general comment about alternative treatments for Bladder cancer.
http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/25658.htm
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as mentioned already - positive attitude. etc..and some vitamins.....
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